JohnfromUK Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 25 minutes ago, Walker570 said: when flying into the USA carry firearms, the longest wait I had was about 15 minutes and that was because the officer wanted to talk about hunting and the fact he had missed a very good whitetail buck that weekend. I had a very similar experience flying into Miami carrying a shot gun years ago (en route for Costa Rica). Mind you that was 30 years ago - and I remember we did then have a very good service at Heathrow on our return ....... possibly because we were escorted (by the airline) through customs and immigration to check firearms paperwork. Mind you that was 30 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 A forlorn hope I know but I really would like the name of the crass ignorant individual who thought it a good deal for us to continue to be tied to their apron strings forever with less rights than we have now? I have been informed the schools I had the misfortune to attend were 5th rate but their schooling really should be examined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 23 hours ago, oowee said: Admiral insurance, Credit Suisse, RSA (jan 19), STM Life, Chub (jan 19 approved by france regulator),Schaeffler from Wales getting bored looking but here are a few companies leaving or agreed to leave the UK in part or in whole over last year. I listed some in an earlier post which you can look back to. Ever closer union is in the original article's for establishing the EU back in the 50's and talks about the people rather than the politics. I don't know much about it (including 2020) but if its one of the principle framework elements it requires all members to agree. From what you are saying above that looks unlikely? I have to go shooting now. 🙂 And mostly foreign owned? 20 hours ago, Walker570 said: More bad news. Holiday makers flying into European airports will face a three hour wait at immigration. Well, Madeira is looking attractive because the Portugese have already seen the potential problem and will be opening up separate check in channels for British Passport holders. The report said that other countries would be under pressure from the EU and would not be making any special arrangements. Cornwall could be crowded this summer. More Project Fear! Most of these countries rely on tourists to keep their economies running......does anyone seriously think that they are going to let their economies suffer, just because some loon in Brussels says they cannot operate a separate channel for British tourists? They ALREADY operate separate channels for non-EU travellers! 20 hours ago, Rewulf said: The important thing to point out in this latest revelation is the part of the report that says this 3 hour delay will only be a thing if there is no deal. So presumably, if we take Mays deal, it all goes away? We are no longer a 3rd country, and you won't be spending hours queuing in the sweltering heat? Oh, and the tourist industry of France Italy and Spain won't be devastated by the lack of Brits going there on holiday. Good post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 I foretold this, and it is happening in Conservative constituencies across England! Former UKIP members, and voters, have realised this is the way to punish the traitors,,,,,DE-SELECT THEM! Nick Boles, Grantham & Stamford MP, and a REMOANER! Boles’s local opponents mostly seem quite confident that they would win a ballot if it came to one. I’m told that of the 500 or so members of the association, 200 have written to the executive about their MP’s position on Brexit. That is a remarkable number, given Conservatives’ natural dislike for deselections and the current association of such action with Momentum, and suggests both deep and widespread unhappiness. “It goes way beyond the activists, it’s the elderly lady who’s been a member for 70 years…and is taking the trouble to write a letter to say how unhappy she is,” as one senior volunteer put it There are some suggestions that the Grantham and Stamford association has become even more firmly anti-EU since the referendum, too. It has reportedly enjoyed one of the largest rises in membership of any Conservative association, and the MP’s defenders note that at least some of those newer members are former UKIP supporters, activists and even candidates. Cllr Foulkes, the branch chairman calling for a No Confidence vote, was a defector from UKIP – in an ironic turn of events, he was welcomed by Boles at the time to his new home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, pinfireman said: I foretold this, and it is happening in Conservative constituencies across England! Former UKIP members, and voters, have realised this is the way to punish the traitors,,,,,DE-SELECT THEM! Nick Boles, Grantham & Stamford MP, and a REMOANER! Boles’s local opponents mostly seem quite confident that they would win a ballot if it came to one. I’m told that of the 500 or so members of the association, 200 have written to the executive about their MP’s position on Brexit. That is a remarkable number, given Conservatives’ natural dislike for deselections and the current association of such action with Momentum, and suggests both deep and widespread unhappiness. “It goes way beyond the activists, it’s the elderly lady who’s been a member for 70 years…and is taking the trouble to write a letter to say how unhappy she is,” as one senior volunteer put it There are some suggestions that the Grantham and Stamford association has become even more firmly anti-EU since the referendum, too. It has reportedly enjoyed one of the largest rises in membership of any Conservative association, and the MP’s defenders note that at least some of those newer members are former UKIP supporters, activists and even candidates. Cllr Foulkes, the branch chairman calling for a No Confidence vote, was a defector from UKIP – in an ironic turn of events, he was welcomed by Boles at the time to his new home. Just north of here then, I shall watch with great interest! I strongly suspect this hasn't helped his cause. "Cooper and Boles’s amendment: The amendment essentially provides for the possibility of extending Article 50 to avoid No Deal. The technicalities of doing so mean it involves creating time for a Private Members’ Bill that would make such a provision, in the circumstance that the Prime Minister’s revised or renegotiated deal is voted down – and the timings would require that Bill to proceed before those negotiations end or the vote on the deal takes place. If the Bill goes through, and May’s deal is defeated, only at that stage would MPs get the chance to vote on whether the UK should request an extension". Edited January 26, 2019 by TIGHTCHOKE Punctuation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Just north of here then, I shall watch with great interest! I strongly suspect this hasn't helped his cause. "Cooper and Boles’s amendment: The amendment essentially provides for the possibility of extending Article 50 to avoid No Deal. The technicalities of doing so mean it involves creating time for a Private Members’ Bill that would make such a provision, in the circumstance that the Prime Minister’s revised or renegotiated deal is voted down – and the timings would require that Bill to proceed before those negotiations end or the vote on the deal takes place. If the Bill goes through, and May’s deal is defeated, only at that stage would MPs get the chance to vote on whether the UK should request an extension". You are dead right! Win or lose Brexit, this Remoaner is dead meat at the next election! Soubry,s association has also had a large number of new members, and Morgan and Greening are on the list! Sadly, Grieves is almost bombproof, with a very large majority.................We bang on here, and other forums, but that is just like letting off steam in the pub! Now the move has actually started to fight back.....we live in interesting times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 We certainly do! Professional Politicians as a species are about to go through the biggest shake up they have ever had. The list is growing on all sides, some have had the sense to leave politics, others will have to learn the hard way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 An absolute revelation! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47018418 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 5 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: An absolute revelation! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47018418 A real eye-opener! Is your MP with us, or against us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 2 hours ago, pinfireman said: A real eye-opener! Is your MP with us, or against us? Thankfully my MP is Shailesh Vara, an honourable man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Thankfully my MP is Shailesh Vara, an honourable man! Drop him an email, congratulating him on his stance! Nothing like a bit of praise to keep them in line.................Mine is a Labour MP, Caroline Flint. She voted Remain, but we voted overwhelmingly Leave......she openly has said that she honours our decision, and has twice voted against the Labour Whip. A dozen of us (mostly non-Labour voters) messaged her, thanking her for her principled stance, and we got a proper reply, not an automated one. It does work if you keep on top of them. Sadly, since June 2016, how many Leavers have pestered their MPs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 I did commend him when he resigned from Northern Ireland Minister in protest over TM's agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 39 minutes ago, pinfireman said: Sadly, since June 2016, how many Leavers have pestered their MPs? My MP is a Tory and has supported Mrs May's 'deal' - which is supporting leave - so I guess she could be said to be supporting the referendum result. I have therefore not pestered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambone Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 My MP is Stephen Kinnock...….Not an honourable man 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, hambone said: My MP is Stephen Kinnock...….Not an honourable man 😂 You poor sod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Richard Burden blinkered ("I always vote against hunting, and always will") anti fieldsports.........a remainer, and a people's vote supporter......even though his constituency voted 60/40 to leave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 38 minutes ago, hambone said: My MP is Stephen Kinnock...….Not an honourable man Wants his nose in the trough like the rest of his family no doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, panoma1 said: Richard Burden blinkered ("I always vote against hunting, and always will") anti fieldsports.........a remainer, and a people's vote supporter......even though his constituency voted 60/40 to leave... 🙂 Richard Burden gosh that's a blast from the past. I used to have run in's with him all the time about developing Woodgate Valley and Frankley services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Nottingham north, Graham Allen , remainer, and voted to NOT trigger article 50, retired at 2017 election and it's now Alex Norris, staunch remainer, votes against anything that bring Brexit closer. Nottingham north voted 64 % to leave the the EU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, oowee said: 🙂 Richard Burden gosh that's a blast from the past. I used to have run in's with him all the time about developing Woodgate Valley and Frankley services. Blast from the past for you Grant.....unfortunately he is very much in the present here! ☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Bath and North East Somerest, JRM 58% remain to 42% quit. Moggy has betrayed and rejected his constituents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambone Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, oowee said: Bath and North East Somerest, JRM 58% remain to 42% quit. Moggy has betrayed and rejected his constituents. You have a point there but he still with the majority of the country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 27 minutes ago, oowee said: Bath and North East Somerest, JRM 58% remain to 42% quit. Moggy has betrayed and rejected his constituents. Nope! He supports the democratic UK majority decision.......If MPs were to support their remain constituency, Scotland and London amongst other losers would remain in the EU....whilst the winners, those that vote leave would be out! His constituency merely Contributed to the democratic decision, they did not make the democratic decision! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Just on a point of constitutional convention, MPs are not simply delegates, or mouthpieces for their constituents. In a tradition that goes back to the 1700s they're elected as trustees whose chief loyalty is to the national interest. You can thank Edmund Burke, the Irish MP and political philosopher for that. "It is a tenet of representative democracy that MPs are not delegates for their constituents. This means that, while the views of constituents are frequently considered, the actions of MPs are governed by their determination of the best interests of their constituency, their party and the country as a whole." http://www.politics.co.uk/reference/mps-and-political-artiesp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 While you're quoting Constitutional Convention could you possibly make the same point to John Bercow the Speaker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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