Manish Posted April 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Pushandpull said: The OP seemed to move from sbs to pump rather soon but here are my thoughts. Lastly, if your mate really had a double discharge with a double .416 Rigby then either the rifle or the shooter need looking at. On a dangerous game rifle this could get you killed. The pump is an option that is open rather than converting and yes it will be for fowling. As for the double discharge it was a case of my mate didn't have enough of his finger over the front trigger so the recoil from the first shot pushed his finger onto the back trigger. I tend to fire the back one first then the front one much like my Grandfather did back in India Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted April 12, 2020 Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 Personally I wouldn't bother getting the chambers extended, you dont need the extra capacity , especially if you load your own cartridges. I've been using a Benelli Nova pump for the last 3 season ( I think?). Good gun, although I've just got a 3 1/2" over under. Benelli still sits in the cabinet mind, may sell it once this is all over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manish Posted April 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Big Mat said: Personally I wouldn't bother getting the chambers extended, you dont need the extra capacity , especially if you load your own cartridges. I've been using a Benelli Nova pump for the last 3 season ( I think?). Good gun, although I've just got a 3 1/2" over under. Benelli still sits in the cabinet mind, may sell it once this is all over Im going to start loading my own carts but would it be possible to get 42 grams of 2 shot into a 3 inch case?? sounds a but much to me but I am rather new to this all. I do on the other hand load for all my rifles apart from the 22lr 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted April 12, 2020 Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Manish said: Im going to start loading my own carts but would it be possible to get 42 grams of 2 shot into a 3 inch case?? sounds a but much to me but I am rather new to this all. I do on the other hand load for all my rifles apart from the 22lr 😆 No, volume is to much. 36 gram of 2s is sufficient, my favourite factory load is 38 grams of 2s made by nsi. Biggest load I have for 3" is 37 grams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manish Posted April 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Big Mat said: No, volume is to much. 36 gram of 2s is sufficient, my favourite factory load is 38 grams of 2s made by nsi. Biggest load I have for 3" is 37 grams only problem is the AYA isnt steel proofed. The last thing I want is the thing to blow up in my face due to my own stupidity. Looks like a yildiz is going to make its way into my safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted April 12, 2020 Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) Sound is that MANISH. Give the folks I've highlighted the listing on Guntrader for a call. Although these things have limited buyers I can't see it staying unsold for long at that price. Edited April 12, 2020 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manish Posted April 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 Don't how I'm gonna do a part ex with the lockdown and I'm in Norfolk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted April 12, 2020 Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 Offer the AYA in Guntrader, or indeed here, get RFD to RFD for the Yildiz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manish Posted April 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2020 54 minutes ago, enfieldspares said: Offer the AYA in Guntrader, or indeed here, get RFD to RFD for the Yildiz. got a semi auto and an OU bettensoli I can get rid of I do like that old AYA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P08 Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 On youtube, a chap in America converts a Browning Auto 5, from 2 1/2 to 2 3/4 see if you can find it, It can be done, but the work required it is not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob525 Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 22 hours ago, Big Mat said: No, volume is to much. 36 gram of 2s is sufficient, my favourite factory load is 38 grams of 2s made by nsi. Biggest load I have for 3" is 37 grams I'm not a leader etc but is this true as every year I shoot a slab or so of 50g 3s in a 3inch case? Surely 36g of 2 isnt more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, Rob525 said: I'm not a leader etc but is this true as every year I shoot a slab or so of 50g 3s in a 3inch case? Surely 36g of 2 isnt more? The post refers to steel ... which I’m pretty sure you don’t 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Rob525 said: I'm not a leader etc but is this true as every year I shoot a slab or so of 50g 3s in a 3inch case? Surely 36g of 2 isnt more? As per what Smokersmith has said already, we're talking about steel shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 On 12/04/2020 at 18:48, Manish said: only problem is the AYA isnt steel proofed. The last thing I want is the thing to blow up in my face due to my own stupidity. Looks like a yildiz is going to make its way into my safe Guns do not just "blow up." You do not necessarily need a steel proofed gun in order to fire steel cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manish Posted April 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 11 hours ago, motty said: Guns do not just "blow up." You do not necessarily need a steel proofed gun in order to fire steel cartridges. I have heard that but wouldnt be a bad idea? I know high performance steel is a bad idea. I mean would the old AYA handle a 42 gram 3 inch cart in steel?? It is a 3 inch mag rated gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 27 minutes ago, Manish said: I have heard that but wouldnt be a bad idea? I know high performance steel is a bad idea. I mean would the old AYA handle a 42 gram 3 inch cart in steel?? It is a 3 inch mag rated gun You wouldn't have a 42 gram 3" cartridge. Secondly, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 Quote A chap in America converts a Browning Auto 5, from 2 1/2 to 2 3/4 see if you can find it, It can be done, but the work required it is not worth it. That's odd as I thought that in 12 Bore they came from the factory in 2 3/4"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manish Posted April 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 Im seeing that 42 grm 3 1/2s arnt all they are made out to be due to the pat spread. Now im getting all confused and unsure as to what to load for 😵🤯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Heron Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 Just buy the tool for the job boring out and reproofing just not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 On 14/04/2020 at 15:15, Manish said: Im seeing that 42 grm 3 1/2s arnt all they are made out to be due to the pat spread. Now im getting all confused and unsure as to what to load for 😵🤯 I have a few 3 1/2" chambered guns for wildfowling. The extra capacity can make the difference. I did, however, use a non steel proofed 3" beretta for a few years on the shore. I put any 3" cartridge in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manish Posted April 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 one thing that concerns me about the foreshore is rust on my AYA. I suppose if a lag it up in oil I might get away with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenman Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 This may be of interest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 Nice to see this again ... It’s another reminder that guns not tested for Superior Steel proof when made, in many cases, would have been if tested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 13 hours ago, Manish said: one thing that concerns me about the foreshore is rust on my AYA. I suppose if a lag it up in oil I might get away with it It is almost impossible to get away from rust on the shore it is just a fact of life. You just have to clean the guns meticulously. Oil in my experience does not guarantee rust free. I tend use something thicker, for example Barbour coat wax can be used on outside metal parts. I use it on my cartridge heads for longevity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer425 Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 ATF and then work in simoniz wax the yellow tin original. Is surface dry overnight, but still smudgeable to keep exposed metal protected on the marsh. Removes with ATF easy. And this will keep a blued gun looking good for years, if you keep up the routine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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