Major Incident in Bournemouth!

[Yellow Bear]

1 hour ago, Bobba said:

And they leave their litter on the beaches (tons of it) and toilet ( both No 1's and No 2's) anywhere the can, and leave it for others to clear up. Disgusting behaviour in every respect.

And dogs are not allowed because they might leave a little mess - go figure

[JohnfromUK]

5 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said:

must already be available.

Yesterday (Thursday) deaths (3 to 5 weeks lag?) were up from 139 a week before on Thursday to 154 (figures vary slightly where you read them, but up roughly 10%)

Confirmed cases up from 653 (Wednesday) to 1118 (Thursday). 

To small a sample to show anything meaningful, but not in the right direction.

In the meantime WHO say where lock down has been eased, cases are rising https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8460103/Europe-seen-surge-coronavirus-cases-easing-lockdown-warns.html

I am all for lifting lock down carefully - but although that is what the Gov't seem to be trying for - the public are being completely stupid in how they are interpreting it.

[Raja Clavata]

Just now, JohnfromUK said:

Yesterday (Thursday) deaths (3 to 5 weeks lag?) were up from 139 a week before on Thursday to 154 (figures vary slightly where you read them, but up roughly 10%)

Confirmed cases up from 653 (Wednesday) to 1118 (Thursday). 

To small a sample to show anything meaningful, but not in the right direction.

In the meantime WHO say where lock down has been eased, cases are rising https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8460103/Europe-seen-surge-coronavirus-cases-easing-lockdown-warns.html

I am all for lifting lock down carefully - but although that is what the Gov't seem to be trying for - the public are being completely stupid in how they are interpreting it.

Agreed on both points (too small sample and wrong direction).

The thing is there must be enough beaches around the country to cater for pretty much anyone who felt the need to go yesterday, with all amenities closed it's barking mad for everyone to descend on the places they did. I was invited down to the Broadstairs area yesterday but just couldn't bring myself to participate, by all accounts the friends that went reckoned it was very easy to enjoy the beach at safe distances from others. I'm still glad I didn't go though.

[JohnfromUK]

3 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said:

with all amenities closed it's barking mad for everyone to descend on the places they did.

I understand all of the parking, toilets, waste bins etc were open - just that there were queues ..........and people just left waste (cans, bottles, wrappers) on the beach ........

I think once 'on the beach', there was adequate room, but there were just so many people that the facilities were swamped leading to queuing and crowding.  People will just have to learn that we live in a very small country - with a vary large population for it's size - and you can't all - go on the roads - go on public transport - go to the beach - go in the pub  - etc., all at once.  We are overpopulated if we are to avoid crowding and maintain reasonable 'social distancing'.  That situation will remain, since the populating isn't suddenly (or even slowly) going to dramatically decrease, nor is the need to distance going to go away .......... for at the very least the rest of this year, and maybe not next year, or even   It depends on whether a vaccine can be made - and the antibodies it creates are effective and reasonably long lasting.  All unknowns.

In the meantime, we should be allowed to un-lock down only if we behave sensibly.  All going to the beach/demos/football in droves isn't sensibly - in fact it is about as stupid as you can get.

[Scully]

2 hours ago, Bobba said:

And they leave their litter on the beaches (tons of it) and toilet ( both No 1's and No 2's) anywhere the can, and leave it for others to clear up. Disgusting behaviour in every respect.

Nothing compared to Gypsy Fair week in Appleby....it’s like that every year. Hedgerows are decorated with toilet paper and all manner of rags and clothing that they’ve wiped their backsides with, all just left there in plain view for all to see. Same with lane ends and grass verges prior to the opening of the hill. 
Takes a small army of workers to clean it up, all paid for by locals through an increase in council tax. 🙂

[SpringDon]

1 hour ago, JohnfromUK said:

No: I heard smeone from Bournemouth Council interviewed and they were all open ........ but there were so many people that there were big queues - which caused people to 'make their own arrangements'.

The NHS workers are bound to feel hurt.  They had had the short straw in this - and this is a 'kick in the teeth' from (many of) the public - who they thought were on their side.

Not by the (the majority of) public necessarily - but BLM are untouchable by the police, bit like travellers etc.

Bring back the clapping - that will make it better.

[AVB]

Listening on the radio to all the people who live near beaches complaining about people visiting them. ***. It's sunny, people go to the beach. Do they think the beaches should be for locals only? Selfish *****. 

[Yellow Bear]

14 minutes ago, AVB said:

Do they think the beaches should be for locals only? Selfish *****

I don't think this is the case, however you were "muttering" about badgers on your front, how would you have felt if a crowd came and used your garden as a toilet and then left half a ton of litter on the road outside all for you to clear up.

[Old farrier]

2 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said:

I don't think this is the case, however you were "muttering" about badgers on your front, how would you have felt if a crowd came and used your garden as a toilet and then left half a ton of litter on the road outside all for you to clear up.

9 tons on one beach in Dorset 

cars parked in corn fields 

total madness and I feel for the residents of the area’s there livelihood is dependent upon tourism but they can’t cope with 1/2 million people in one day 

[AVB]

16 minutes ago, Yellow Bear said:

I don't think this is the case, however you were "muttering" about badgers on your front, how would you have felt if a crowd came and used your garden as a toilet and then left half a ton of litter on the road outside all for you to clear up.

They were not complaining about people using gardens as toilets but simply about the crowds on the beach. The council should be held to account for closing the toilets if they aren't open.  

[JohnfromUK]

Just now, AVB said:

The council should be held to account for closing the toilets if they aren't open.  

They were open (according to interviews on radio) as were the car parks and the litter bins, but so many people there were queues for everything - just too many people for the usual facilities.  We live in a very densely populated country - and when a lot of people all go to the beach it once - there are just too many people.

[scutt]

5 hours ago, Bobba said:

And they leave their litter on the beaches (tons of it) and toilet ( both No 1's and No 2's) anywhere the can, and leave it for others to clear up. Disgusting behaviour in every respect.

The generation who want to save the planet🤣

[AVB]

So we had an incident last week with three people stabbed and murdered in Reading. Declared, justifiable, a major incident. And today three people, stabbed and murdered in Glasgow. Again, justifiably, a major incident. The beach in Bournemouth gets a bit crowded and thats a 'major incident'. I think somebody (whoever it is who declares these things) needs to get a grip on reality.    

[TIGHTCHOKE]

1 minute ago, AVB said:

So we had an incident last week with three people stabbed and murdered in Reading. Declared, justifiable, a major incident. And today three people, stabbed and murdered in Glasgow. Again, justifiably, a major incident. The beach in Bournemouth gets a bit crowded and thats a 'major incident'. I think somebody (whoever it is who declares these things) needs to get a grip on reality.    

At least in the two "major" incidents that involved stabbings the Police actually did something!

[JohnfromUK]

1 minute ago, AVB said:

And today three people, stabbed and murdered in Glasgow.

I think the latest on Glasgow is that various were attacked with a knife and are in hospital (including a policeman), but the only death seems to have been the perpetrator who was shot.  It was confused earlier with reports of more deaths.

[Raja Clavata]

And latest reports suggest that the public heeded the advice and, mostly, stayed away from Bournemouth beach. It does raise the question though, of whether the small number there today are all locals or a mix of locals and people who did not heed the advice...

[Vince Green]

We have a friend who lives on one of the chines and she says its like a cess pit, Pee and poop absolutely everywhere, even in the garden of her apartment block.