Mr gen Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Afternoon all what is the law on keeping a spare set of barrels I have a broken 525 with 30 inch barrels, looking to replace it with a newer 28 inch barrelled 525 I have tried my old barrels on the new action and they fit perfectly so does the fore end. Would I legally be allowed to scrap the old gun but keep the barrels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 No doubt your FEO would guide you, but yes its likely your RFD could scrap the gun (the item with the serial number) and enter the spare barrel set on your license as "12 bore spare barrel" or similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Yes you can barrels are on a shotgun aren’t restricted but some forces do require them to be entered on to your sgc. all easily done but worth speaking to your FEO so you get his view of the rules, but you can keep everything but the action body, the FEO may even take it away for destruction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) Shotguns no problem. I have two barrels for my Remmy Wingmaster, never been a question BUT spare rifle barrels are treated as individual rifles and entered as such on your ticket. Crazy I know but each of my six rifle barrels for the T/C Encore are entered as separate rifles. As said above ring FEO anyway for advise because you need to inform of the purchase /acquisition of the new shotgun anyway. Edited July 9, 2020 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr gen Posted July 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) Thanks for the swift replies. It may irrelevant yet as I might claim off the house insurance and they will probably insist on destroying the gun themselves. Edited July 9, 2020 by Mr gen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 My feo told me it's a steel tube, so it doesn't need to be on your license. The action is the part that's important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 As we can see, it’s better to find out what your specific FEO / Licencing authority want in this situation, but either way shouldn’t be a problem 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Mr gen said: Thanks for the swift replies. It may irrelevant yet as I might claim off the house insurance and they will probably insist on destroying the gun themselves. BUT, you can offer to buy the barrels back. Spare barrels do not need to be entered on your shotgun certificate either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Most insurance companies can’t take control of a gun and therefore ask you to deal with it by handing it in to the police or an RFD. it’s cheaper for them as RFDs tend to charge insurance companies a decent rate 😜 same as they charge then as businesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Westley said: BUT, you can offer to buy the barrels back. Spare barrels do not need to be entered on your shotgun certificate either. Until you put them in to a Gun Smith who follows the rules and insists they are on your SGC before you can have the gun back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Until you put them in to a Gun Smith who follows the rules and insists they are on your SGC before you can have the gun back. Can you show me the rules please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Well here in Cambridgeshire I have had two guns worked on with odd barrels and the Gunsmith insisted they needed listing on my SGC before he could return them. Consequently I got them added to my SGC. Not a problem for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Load of rubbish, making things up, there are no rules regarding barrels, did you know even The Post Office will let you post them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Good luck. I don't need luck thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr gen Posted July 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Well seems to me I have a few calls to make tomorrow. Firstly to the gunsmith to ask him to right a note to the insurance company stating that it is uneconomical to repair the gun and if he will let me keep the barrels after all if he is declaring that he has scrapped the whole gun, it might not sit well with him, then to the FEO to see if he will allow it, then the insurance company to see how they want to proceed! Busy day Thanks for all the advice I will let you know how it all turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A bolt 22.250 Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 I Had a 20 bore side by side with very badly broken stock that couldn’t be repaired the insurance paid out but never requested that I scrapped it I was going to get some joiner mates of mine to try make a stock but it never happened. i kept it on my ticket for years my FEO wasn’t concerned I eventually needed more room in the safe so took it to my local gun dealer and they sent off to be scrapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mr gen said: Well seems to me I have a few calls to make tomorrow. Firstly to the gunsmith to ask him to right a note to the insurance company stating that it is uneconomical to repair the gun and if he will let me keep the barrels after all if he is declaring that he has scrapped the whole gun, it might not sit well with him, then to the FEO to see if he will allow it, then the insurance company to see how they want to proceed! Busy day Thanks for all the advice I will let you know how it all turns out. I bet you a tenner that if you tell your FEO about the gun he will want the barrels to be entered on your SGC, I tell FEO's nothing regarding what I buy or sell, I just tell the firearms department where my SGC is granted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 11 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Well here in Cambridgeshire I have had two guns worked on with odd barrels and the Gunsmith insisted they needed listing on my SGC before he could return them. Consequently I got them added to my SGC. Not a problem for me. That’s a local view often put out by the FEOs and it’s easier just to follow their view of the rules on something like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 10 hours ago, BlaserF3 said: I bet you a tenner that if you tell your FEO about the gun he will want the barrels to be entered on your SGC, I tell FEO's nothing regarding what I buy or sell, I just tell the firearms department where my SGC is granted. I didn't tell my FEO, the Gunsmith was the person who said the shop was following new rules. Consequently I then had to tell my FEO in order to get the Barrels listed so I could collect them. I do not have a problem with any of this and believe it was new guidance adopted in line with the EU which we were still in at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: I didn't tell my FEO, the Gunsmith was the person who said the shop was following new rules. Consequently I then had to tell my FEO in order to get the Barrels listed so I could collect them. I do not have a problem with any of this and believe it was new guidance adopted in line with the EU which we were still in at the time. And an FEO will have told the gunsmith. It’s really not a issue or problem. My one RFD is in Surrey the other Hants (at one point only 3 miles apart) they don’t agree one require spare shotgun barrels listed the other doesn’t. Its not as if you need a variation to do it or have a limit on how many you hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 I'm getting fed up with various "rules" being imposed on shooters, it's not the Law and what will happen if we keep accepting them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 On 10/07/2020 at 08:44, BlaserF3 said: I'm getting fed up with various "rules" being imposed on shooters, it's not the Law and what will happen if we keep accepting them? A bit like the Doctors letter bit then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted July 11, 2020 Report Share Posted July 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Westley said: A bit like the Doctors letter bit then ? I've never had anything to do with Doctors letters, have you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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