Channel Migrants

[12gauge82]

 

[Newbie to this]

11 hours ago, henry d said:

OK, let's call you and 12 to order. Have either of you freely spent your time with young people from this country who are struggling with a variety of issues? People with substances abuse issues? Debt? Issues around IT poverty? Do either of you work with people who have recently left jail and are desperately trying not to end up back there? Mental ill health? 

Pretty sure noobie? 12?

Go on I'll bite, what has any of that got to do with illegal immigrants?

Or those championing illegals, not offering to house and support them?

[henry d]

9 minutes ago, Newbie to this said:

Go on I'll bite, what has any of that got to do with illegal immigrants?

Best ask those who go off on a tangent about cancer patients and rape victims 

Or those championing illegals, not offering to house and support them?

AFAIK you can't just go down the beach and take one home, or go over the channel and pick up a car load. 

 

[Rewulf]

18 minutes ago, Newbie to this said:

Go on I'll bite, what has any of that got to do with illegal immigrants?

 

Nothing , but henry believes in the ,  ' Let him without sin...'  mantra , when it suits him of course , because he's obviously never done wrong in his life 😀

8 minutes ago, henry d said:

AFAIK you can't just go down the beach and take one home, or go over the channel and pick up a car load. 

No one said that , and there's nothing stopping you either , but get on to your MP and see if they can extend the homes for Ukraine scheme to Channel migrants , and you can virtue signal to your hearts content , how you're doing your bit ?

No? Thought not.

[Newbie to this]

12 minutes ago, henry d said:

Best ask those who go off on a tangent about cancer patients and rape victims 

I see so this bit wasn't aimed at me then.

13 minutes ago, henry d said:

AFAIK you can't just go down the beach and take one home, or go over the channel and pick up a car load. 

I'm pretty sure you could approach your local council offering housing and monetary support, if you really wanted to help these illegals. Let me know if they take you up on your generous offer.

[Newbie to this]

11 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

Nothing , but henry believes in the ,  ' Let him without sin...'  mantra , when it suits him of course , because he's obviously never done wrong in his life 😀

But these people are with sin, I believe law breaking is a sin.

12 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

25 minutes ago, henry d said:

AFAIK you can't just go down the beach and take one home, or go over the channel and pick up a car load. 

No one said that , and there's nothing stopping you either , but get on to your MP and see if they can extend the homes for Ukraine scheme to Channel migrants , and you can virtue signal to your hearts content , how you're doing your bit ?

No? Thought not.

No, the tax payer will foot the bill. It's much easier to vitue-signal, when the tax payer is paying for it.

[12gauge82]

30 minutes ago, henry d said:

 

Before you go on virtue signalling further, I lost my best friend, someone I had known since a baby, we were more like brothers, to what should have been a completely curable cancer, because the NHS didn't pay due diligence to his disease, if the NHS weren't under so much pressure he would likely still be alive today, I'm not attributing that blame to migration, but going forwards it's not going to help. It's a very serious situation, all public services and the quality of life of our citizens, but particularly our young is under threat, the wokery in our country that prevents us dealing with economic migrants is damaging people and will be responsible for the deaths of people like my friend and for you to just casually flip those concerns off and lable anyone rasing them as a racist is wrong. 

Edited November 16, 2022 by 12gauge82

[Dave-G]

Is it fair to assume all the lefty work to rule brigade and MSM griping about the state of the countries finances, under funding etc feel happy that undocumented uncheckable illegals are draining our resources from the tax take?

Most of the world is in dire financial woes but its all UK Tory governments fault.

[oowee]

11 minutes ago, Dave-G said:

Is it fair to assume all the lefty work to rule brigade and MSM griping about the state of the countries finances, under funding etc feel happy that undocumented uncheckable illegals are draining our resources from the tax take?

Most of the world is in dire financial woes but its all UK Tory governments fault.

And brexiteers. 👍

[Newbie to this]

3 hours ago, oowee said:

And brexiteers. 👍

Yes, brexit is causing the same problems worldwide. It's amazing how influential the UK's EU membership was to world finances.

 

Edited November 16, 2022 by Newbie to this

[old man]

10 minutes ago, oowee said:

And brexiteers. 👍

Come on, what on earth is wrong with wanting to be a sovereign country which is ruled by it's own elected politicians? (abysmal quality, such as they are) rather than the euro mob who seemingly elect themselves?

The fault as usual lies with the idiots who enabled the closer political union?

A knighthood followed so that's ok? 

 

[Rem260]

14 hours ago, henry d said:

OK, let's call you and 12 to order. Have either of you freely spent your time with young people from this country who are struggling with a variety of issues? People with substances abuse issues? Debt? Issues around IT poverty? Do either of you work with people who have recently left jail and are desperately trying not to end up back there? Mental ill health? 

Pretty sure noobie? 12?

How many migrants would you like to put in front of those of whom you have mentioned?

[oowee]

1 hour ago, old man said:

Come on, what on earth is wrong with wanting to be a sovereign country which is ruled by it's own elected politicians? (abysmal quality, such as they are) rather than the euro mob who seemingly elect themselves?

The fault as usual lies with the idiots who enabled the closer political union?

A knighthood followed so that's ok? 

 

Nothing wrong with that at all but you have to have a plan (we dont) and you have to pay for it (we can't). We had more power, more money and more influence in than out. 

Simply put the cost is equivalent to 4p on the basic rate of tax. The tax hikes we will see tomorrow need not happen. 

The honors list is  historica patronage that should either be re purposed or abolished. 

[henry d]

3 hours ago, Rem260 said:

How many migrants would you like to put in front of those of whom you have mentioned?

What planet are you from, how is that even a question? We deal with people in different areas, medical, substance abuse, mental health, youth work, migration. It is not a single queue! 

[Dave-G]

Of course its our fault the boat people come here because their own government doesn't look after them as well as ours have been barracked into by umpteen yuman rights lawyers and lefty politically driven wet activists.

I wonder why those lawyers don't take it up with the governments where they don't get as free a ride. 

Edited November 16, 2022 by Dave-G

[Rem260]

1 hour ago, henry d said:

What planet are you from, how is that even a question? We deal with people in different areas, medical, substance abuse, mental health, youth work, migration. It is not a single queue! 

It's called planet reality. Plus its probably a question you don't want to answer. Are you really telling me that all the services you have mentioned are not stretched to breaking point. As most representatives for services/charities who come on the news channels say they are. However on your planet they may not.

[12gauge82]

1 hour ago, henry d said:

What planet are you from, how is that even a question? We deal with people in different areas, medical, substance abuse, mental health, youth work, migration. It is not a single queue! 

What planet are you from? Its a very simple question, if we add to the strain on our already overworked public services from economic migrants, how many UK citizens are you prepared to see go back down the que or miss out altogether? 

[henry d]

6 hours ago, Newbie to this said:

But these people are with sin, I believe law breaking is a sin....

Good for you, when did you last do over the speed limit?

 

[12gauge82]

2 minutes ago, henry d said:

 

Not going to answer the question then? 

And there's a vast difference between drifting over the speed limit and committing serious crime. When was the last time you saw someone go to prison for doing 36 in a 30?

Edited November 16, 2022 by 12gauge82

[Newbie to this]

10 minutes ago, henry d said:

Good for you, when did you last do over the speed limit?

What has that got to do with anything?

[Gordon R]

Quote

We had more power, more money and more influence in than out. 

Classic, albeit nonsense.

[henry d]

49 minutes ago, Rem260 said:

...Are you really telling me that all the services you have mentioned are not stretched to breaking point...[snipped]... However on your planet they may not.

No, I work or have worked with all those groups and a few more from a third sector perspective as they are underfunded and have been underfunded for years. 

We don't have one single queue, we don't put one person in front of another, we deal with things in groups or sets if you prefer so most people will be subsets of others and are dealt with in those groups. So your question is just ridiculous. 

3 minutes ago, Newbie to this said:

What has that got to do with anything?

Really, was it that hard?

You are pointing out that you believe law breaking is a sin and I believe you mean migrants, yet if I ask if you break speeding laws you don't see the connection?

[12gauge82]

14 minutes ago, henry d said:

No, I work or have worked with all those groups and a few more from a third sector perspective as they are underfunded and have been underfunded for years. 

We don't have one single queue, we don't put one person in front of another, we deal with things in groups or sets if you prefer so most people will be subsets of others and are dealt with in those groups. So your question is just ridiculous. 

Really, was it that hard?

You are pointing out that you believe law breaking is a sin and I believe you mean migrants, yet if I ask if you break speeding laws you don't see the connection?

Can you really not grasp that we have finite resources and allowing unlimited migration to this country will result in many people already here not receiving essential services? 

[Newbie to this]

9 hours ago, Rewulf said:

Nothing , but henry believes in the ,  ' Let him without sin...'  mantra , when it suits him of course , because he's obviously never done wrong in his life 😀

 

54 minutes ago, henry d said:

But these people are with sin, I believe law breaking is a sin....

Good for you, when did you last do over the speed limit?

I was replying to the above coment from Rewulf. Stating that these people crossing the Channel and entering the UK illegally, are in fact, sinners. Law breaking is a sin right, it's been a while since I've been to confession?

39 minutes ago, henry d said:

Really, was it that hard?

You are pointing out that you believe law breaking is a sin and I believe you mean migrants, yet if I ask if you break speeding laws you don't see the connection?

No I don't see any correlation. Are you really suggesting that a defence for their law breaking is, people speed. 

Does the same logic apply to murderers, rapists etc 🤔 

Edited November 16, 2022 by Newbie to this

[12gauge82]

 

Perhaps Henry with his superior intelligence and morale standards should watch this and explain why this couple should welcome uncontrolled economic migration to this country? 

Edited November 16, 2022 by 12gauge82