JDog Posted November 9, 2021 Report Share Posted November 9, 2021 Another decent wind, a weak line viewed yesterday and an experiment to make me shake at the knees. In tidying my cartridge cupboard I spotted a box of Lyalvale Pigeon Power 29g in fibre. I thought I would use them up today without an audience. I have been deeply sceptical of fibre cartridges in the past. Pigeons are still on old bean stubbles here. This one had very well grown wheat and beans with four leaves. A familiar spot to erect my hide was chosen. There were no thoughts of pellets in a 30'' circle, penetration, lead (as in leed), shot sizes in micro mm or anything else for that matter and I had five pigeons in the first four minutes. In an hour and a half I shot and picked twenty pigeons, all very well killed out to 40m with these cartridges. If anyone has a permission where fibre cartridges are specified, or indeed has an invitation to shoot game where no plastics are allowed then these cartridges may well fit the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted November 9, 2021 Report Share Posted November 9, 2021 They’re bloody good on Partridges also … and I’d also use them on pheasants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agriv8 Posted November 9, 2021 Report Share Posted November 9, 2021 It’s because they are red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliedog Posted November 9, 2021 Report Share Posted November 9, 2021 great pigeon cartridge from my experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 9, 2021 Report Share Posted November 9, 2021 They are a very very good cartridge. As I’ve mentioned elsewhere in this forum, our syndicate bought 1000’s some years ago because they were so cheap, and I used them on pigeons as well as pheasants, and they never disappointed. The only difference is they had plastic wads, and I used up the last of my lot ( as reported ) earlier this year on a decoying day. Am pleased you had a good day, and also pleased to know the fibre wads deliver too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 9, 2021 Report Share Posted November 9, 2021 @JDog Why have you been sceptical of fibre wad cartridges? I have always tried to avoid buying plastic wads, which are surely the invention of the devil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted November 9, 2021 Report Share Posted November 9, 2021 Hes fussy with his carts, even commenting on the smell when fired with some I once had. I've used the pigeon power for a while and quite like them, the clear pigeon (in the clear case) seem a little more authoritive in the kills. Jdogs super fast aren't found wanting even on the most testing of shots, I've yet to try them myself. Glad you got out and had some fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted November 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2021 59 minutes ago, London Best said: @JDog Why have you been sceptical of fibre wad cartridges? I have always tried to avoid buying plastic wads, which are surely the invention of the devil. I have tried odd boxes but at distance they have been found wanting. The next step is to try them on a flight line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted November 9, 2021 Report Share Posted November 9, 2021 I load all my own 410s and use fibre wads and to be honest I have not noticed any difference in performance to factory shells, even good ones like High Pheasant and the newih Lylevale 3 inch 410 which I shot as an experiment this last Saturday on partridge and pheasant and they worked very well. Those 12 gauge shells look more than adequate if you can put the bird in the pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltings Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 ive been loading my own for over 30yrs couldnt tell you the cost of a slab or 1k today my last purchase cbc 6 £86 a thousand while white gold was £ 130 a thousand was a thing i won the £ with cheap cartridges inc the pool shoot i shot twice as much for the same money a win win i shot 1oz 6s they bought blurb white gold punch drunk afraid to pull the trigger i load 28 b and 12 b i load to pick up either and kill the same also load steel for the foreshore to shoot the same as lead at 45yrds rev it up bought 28 bores fiochi shells a few years ago at twenty yrds heard every grain of shot hit not killed cussed and swore many times over the day should have been dead cussed some more as injured not dead now load my own confident as hell i squeeze it off something is dead i reload haven't bought a cartridge in 30 years long may it last shop bought can be found lacking blurb is bull****e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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