TOPGUN749 Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 I was surprised to see how cheap shotguns have become in today’s auction at Hatherleigh. A cased AYA sxs 12 bore £14.40, Miroku Trap o/u £12, Baikal o/u £3.60,even the better stuff not making a lot,such as a Beretta Silver Pigeon 12 bore £480,Browning A1 £480,Browning 525 cased £384,William Ford sxs 12 bore £312. Many cartridges going at £4-5 a box. Some decent bargains in many other things too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, TOPGUN749 said: I was surprised to see how cheap shotguns have become in today’s auction at Hatherleigh. A cased AYA sxs 12 bore £14.40, Miroku Trap o/u £12, Baikal o/u £3.60,even the better stuff not making a lot,such as a Beretta Silver Pigeon 12 bore £480,Browning A1 £480,Browning 525 cased £384,William Ford sxs 12 bore £312. Many cartridges going at £4-5 a box. Some decent bargains in many other things too. Last time I went to one of there auctions the prices were ridiculously high for anything half decent ,sounds like it might be worth a trip to the next one. How can I find out when 5he next one is ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPGUN749 Posted September 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 You could contact the saleroom,I know the 2 most recent were Dec 21,and April 22, so 2 or 3 a year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 We have got a sporting auction on the 8th of October at Horners ( Acle ) in Norfolk , I have been to several over the years and there have been a steady decline in gun prices , more so with the run of the mill side by sides , I have bought my last two and neither of them owed me a penny , one was a German ( Saver ? ) or something like that and it was in brand new condition and it cost me £76 plus fees , now it would most likely be cheaper than that , and the one I use now ( B S A ejector ) was just under £200 with the fees , cartridges can by reasonable if you put a bid in at the right time as they go up a fiver a time , £50 a slab is my limit , so if I was the top bidder at £45 and someone put another bid then I would leave them alone as you have to remember the hammer price is the price before the buyers fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holloway Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 Just found the catalog the William Ford is stunning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 Two Miroku O/U £10and£18 and a Baikal o/3. cheap has a work gun for pest control. Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 15 hours ago, TOPGUN749 said: I was surprised to see how cheap shotguns have become in today’s auction at Hatherleigh. A cased AYA sxs 12 bore £14.40, Miroku Trap o/u £12, Baikal o/u £3.60,even the better stuff not making a lot,such as a Beretta Silver Pigeon 12 bore £480,Browning A1 £480,Browning 525 cased £384,William Ford sxs 12 bore £312. It depends. If the guns are off the face, broken ejectors, cracked at head of stock (there's a scant description in any of the listings) then they aren't at all a bargain as the price to fix will exceed the value when fixed up. Not every "bargain" is such. But for certain I'm glad that I wasn't the vendor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 Also don't forget around 25% or more in fees to the auction house, making a gun less attractive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 9 hours ago, enfieldspares said: It depends. If the guns are off the face, broken ejectors, cracked at head of stock (there's a scant description in any of the listings) then they aren't at all a bargain as the price to fix will exceed the value when fixed up. Not every "bargain" is such. But for certain I'm glad that I wasn't the vendor! The one we have here in Norfolk is even worse for the vendor if he is entering a gun , as you have to pay , or did at the last one pay £10 up front for a gunsmith to inspect the gun before selling , so it could happen where the vendor make nothing on the sale and time you take the time and fuel to enter your lot , he or she could be out of pocket . I once put a t v unit in there general auction that was a half tidy one with lead glazed doors , anyhow , the first week it didn't sell , they then put it in the next sale and low and behold it did sell , a couple of weeks later when we were going past I said to my wife I will just pop in the office and get my money , when I went in and gave the lady my receipt form that they give you when you enter a item , she got my invoice out of the folder and said the good news it sold , the bad news is you owe us 80 odd pence , as it turned out there is a £2 entry fee , then when it didn't sell the first week there was another £2 for the same item the second week when it did sell for a fiver , so it cost me £4 to enter it and £1,80p for fees and v a t , no wander I never made a fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 Yes. I sometimes drop the ball with an auction local to me. Last time one item made £6! So I told them to keep the proceeds for their tea fund. I've dealt with them for a good few years so have done well enough to not be bothered. That's auctions...if there's no "second bidder" you can drop the ball very easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windswept Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 33 minutes ago, enfieldspares said: That's auctions...if there's no "second bidder" you can drop the ball very easily. Or a buyer can bag a bargain. However, last time I went to the sporting auction at Hatherleigh there were a few 'dealers' who bought items that could be sold on easily so I'd be cautious about some of the cheaper bargains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, Windswept said: Or a buyer can bag a bargain. However, last time I went to the sporting auction at Hatherleigh there were a few 'dealers' who bought items that could be sold on easily so I'd be cautious about some of the cheaper bargains. After a while you get to know the dealers and I never minded bidding against them if I wanted the item for my personable use, whereas they are normally buying the item to sell on and no doubt have done the homework in the first place , that I can use to my advantage if I haven't had the time to inspect the item . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovercoupe Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 Yet someone paid £60 plus fees for a westlake b2 air rifle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPGUN749 Posted October 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 17 hours ago, rovercoupe said: Yet someone paid £60 plus fees for a westlake b2 air rifle! Yes,the air guns fetched higher prices than I expected,all my bids were beaten! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 On 28/09/2022 at 11:19, enfieldspares said: It depends. If the guns are off the face, broken ejectors, cracked at head of stock (there's a scant description in any of the listings) then they aren't at all a bargain as the price to fix will exceed the value when fixed up. Not every "bargain" is such. But for certain I'm glad that I wasn't the vendor! Poor condition is often the main reason for the guns to be sold cheaply. I viewed a lot of shotguns at auctions in Kent and outer London sales and 80+% of them (despite good names), were no better than fence posts. Viewing is essential, catalogue descriptions are not to be relied upon, be prepared to be disappointed if you buy "blind". A lot of the rubbish ends up being wall hangers for decorators, especially hammer sbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 Shotguns generally the market is very flat. The number of SGCs has dropped and its getting harder to find anywhere to shoot. All this faffing about getting doctors certificates etc people are just saying it's not worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 11 hours ago, Vince Green said: Shotguns generally the market is very flat. The number of SGCs has dropped and its getting harder to find anywhere to shoot. All this faffing about getting doctors certificates etc people are just saying it's not worth it I agree with what you are say , every time my s g c come up for renewal there seem to be another hurdle that you need to cross , if you are keen enough then you will comply with any new regulations and carry on till that one expires , then there will come a time where you start thinking is it really worth all the rig more roll , could be a number of various reasons with one of the main ones could be your age , mine last for another three years and I am now a few weeks off my 75 birthday , my dog is 7 1/2 and I can't see me getting another puppy when I will be heading towards 80 , wild fowling is getting hard work and as a keen pigeon shooter I cannot and will not start dumping the bag as it is getting harder and harder to find anyone who want any , plus within a short while you are more than likely to have to use steel shot instead of lead , so the long time I have been using a shotgun could soon be getting towards the end of the road . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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