HantsRob Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 Yes. Being only 86% of the size, I believe if you use the same choke size you’ll get a tighter constriction of shot for the comparable choke and gun. I’d also suggest a smaller and lighter gun will have a different level of recoil due to rise and weight making the second shot take a slight different time to get back on target. They may be only 5-10% variances but not like for like. comparing 12ga to 28ga will have a higher mathematical variance and also weight and size will adjust recoil etc. Are you suggesting 24g in 12ga and 28ga feels and handles the same? If not then we are on the same page. If so then I’d love to learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 10 hours ago, HantsRob said: Are you suggesting 24g in 12ga and 28ga feels and handles the same? If not then we are on the same page. If so then I’d love to learn. No, I am saying that 24 gram of shot from either gun will kill the same. The feel and handling will depend on the gun. My friend has a pair of Guerini 28 bores which weigh nearly 3/4 lb more than my 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 11 hours ago, HantsRob said: Yes. Being only 86% of the size, I believe if you use the same choke size you’ll get a tighter constriction of shot for the comparable choke and gun. I’d also suggest a smaller and lighter gun will have a different level of recoil due to rise and weight making the second shot take a slight different time to get back on target. They may be only 5-10% variances but not like for like. comparing 12ga to 28ga will have a higher mathematical variance and also weight and size will adjust recoil etc. Are you suggesting 24g in 12ga and 28ga feels and handles the same? If not then we are on the same page. If so then I’d love to learn. Totally depends on the gun 24 gram is a lot for a 28 bore 🙄 im looking at a Winchester set at the moment 1 action 12 bore + 3 sets of barrels and forends all weighing the same when assembled 4.10 28 20 and 12 used for a skeet discipline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 hour ago, London Best said: No, I am saying that 24 gram of shot from either gun will kill the same. Oh, yes. That I completely agree with. 1 hour ago, Old farrier said: Totally depends on the gun 24 gram is a lot for a 28 bore 🙄 im looking at a Winchester set at the moment 1 action 12 bore + 3 sets of barrels and forends all weighing the same when assembled 4.10 28 20 and 12 used for a skeet discipline I'd love to see more actions that can take multiple bores. That would save money potentially, that could then mean a nicer action and flexibility! That sounds really good though..... pics if you buy it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, HantsRob said: Oh, yes. That I completely agree with. I'd love to see more actions that can take multiple bores. That would save money potentially, that could then mean a nicer action and flexibility! That sounds really good though..... pics if you buy it? Not going to buy it no skeet range here and virtually obsolete with the pending legislation its not uncommon to find different caliber barrels for one action or different length/choke barrels for the same gun we will be seeing a lot of change in the gun and cartridge industry in the next few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 5 hours ago, Old farrier said: Not going to buy it no skeet range here and virtually obsolete with the pending legislation its not uncommon to find different caliber barrels for one action or different length/choke barrels for the same gun we will be seeing a lot of change in the gun and cartridge industry in the next few years Indeed, a friend has one action with a pair of 8 and 4 bore double tubes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 40 minutes ago, Penelope said: Indeed, a friend has one action with a pair of 8 and 4 bore double tubes. A wonderful thing to own and use 😊👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, Old farrier said: A wonderful thing to own and use 😊👍 A little excessive for skeet though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 38 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: A little excessive for skeet though! Where is your spirit of adventure 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 18 minutes ago, Old farrier said: Where is your spirit of adventure 😂😂 I shoot skeet with a trap gun, but only when I have to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 11 hours ago, HantsRob said: Oh, yes. That I completely agree with. I'd love to see more actions that can take multiple bores. That would save money potentially, that could then mean a nicer action and flexibility! That sounds really good though..... pics if you buy it? I have. Guerini Maxum with 20 and 28 gauge barrels/forends. Just a few ounces difference in weight so handles essentially the same in both.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted November 19, 2022 Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 I guess going from plastic wad orientated clay guns(large bore, long forcing cones etc) to fibre wad where 18.4 bore provides a better seal will ballistically may have an effect to cartridge performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPGUN749 Posted November 19, 2022 Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 When I started clay shooting in 1977 the standard load was 32 grams in a 12 bore for all disciplines I think,and this only changed in 1989-90.,while game cartridges were usually 30 grams,some 28 or 32 though. Wish they would leave out changes,32 grams was ok 45 years ago and could be now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wylye Posted November 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 Remember happy days using Viri 32gms Supersports through a 390 auto. Rhino 3/8 choke. Fantastic combination. They were a true 7 shot so there was nothing you couldn’t break no matter how far away it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom Posted December 24, 2022 Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 On 19/11/2022 at 16:00, TOPGUN749 said: When I started clay shooting in 1977 the standard load was 32 grams in a 12 bore for all disciplines I think,and this only changed in 1989-90.,while game cartridges were usually 30 grams,some 28 or 32 though. Wish they would leave out changes,32 grams was ok 45 years ago and could be now. I'm guessing that you were using winchester AA100's as most of us did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPGUN749 Posted December 24, 2022 Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 1 hour ago, wisdom said: I'm guessing that you were using winchester AA100's as most of us did. Yes Trap 100 and 200, many other types too including thousands of home loads,but the standard load was 32 grams in most cartridges then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom Posted December 24, 2022 Report Share Posted December 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, TOPGUN749 said: Yes Trap 100 and 200, many other types too including thousands of home loads,but the standard load was 32 grams in most cartridges then. Yes we used allsorts too,but usually the Winchesters.They were available everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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