ShootingEgg Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 So I have a freelander two, so know that's the main issue haha It has a secondary earth(that's one recommenation to sort electric issues) strap as it's eco stop start. AGM battery purchased June 2020 and now it seems to lose charge over night, I've tested it after a charge and it's had 12.6v and 738 reading, then 5 minutes later after doing nothing it, ca was 415. I've disconnected the +ve from the battery and put a bulb inline and it does not light up, so can't see it drawing any power. Also put a test on the earth and it's not drawing an amp, then when turn lights on can see it is.Any other things I can test!?! I have contacted the seller and they just say charge the battery . Which I've done. They then say it's not the battery at fault... How they know this when they are no where near it who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 are any curtersy lights left on /...like glove box.........is the alarm system at fault.....i have heard of this problem many times.....mate had a newish range rover...every time he came back off the rigs his battery was dead...went in and out of garage must have spent loads of money on it...eventually he bought a BMW 4wd.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted November 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 21 minutes ago, ditchman said: are any curtersy lights left on /...like glove box.........is the alarm system at fault.....i have heard of this problem many times.....mate had a newish range rover...every time he came back off the rigs his battery was dead...went in and out of garage must have spent loads of money on it...eventually he bought a BMW 4wd.......... Taken boot light out as possible culprit, even left the truck unlocked and still happens. Needle in haystack comes to mind at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 hour ago, ditchman said: are any curtersy lights left on /...like glove box.........is the alarm system at fault.....i have heard of this problem many times.....mate had a newish range rover...every time he came back off the rigs his battery was dead...went in and out of garage must have spent loads of money on it...eventually he bought a BMW 4wd.......... ...........and got stuck every time he went out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymondley Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 Put your meter set to amps (10amp scale) between the disconnected earth lead and the battery earth post, lock the vehicle with the fob. The amps will peak when you lock it and then settle down to maybe .5 to 1 amp. The system will then take a few minutes to go to sleep. The amp reading after 5 minutes should be no more than 0.05 amp, any more than this and you have a parasitic draw. Also, I'm not sure what you're using to test the battery, but if it's dropping off in 5 minutes of doing nothing off the vehicle, it's got an internal short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted November 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, Wymondley said: Put your meter set to amps (10amp scale) between the disconnected earth lead and the battery earth post, lock the vehicle with the fob. The amps will peak when you lock it and then settle down to maybe .5 to 1 amp. The system will then take a few minutes to go to sleep. The amp reading after 5 minutes should be no more than 0.05 amp, any more than this and you have a parasitic draw. Also, I'm not sure what you're using to test the battery, but if it's dropping off in 5 minutes of doing nothing off the vehicle, it's got an internal short. I have no parasitic draw from the tests I have done. The tester is a sealey battery tester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymondley Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 I'd say you had a sulfated battery then. It may be possible to restore it with a specialist charger but replacement is probably the best option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted November 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 7 hours ago, Wymondley said: I'd say you had a sulfated battery then. It may be possible to restore it with a specialist charger but replacement is probably the best option. Place I bought it from two years back are playing the recharge it card, so unless I can prove it's fudged the 5yr warranty is pointless... I have given it a proper charge and now left it over night to see what happens with the testers this am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR1 Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 What mileage has been done since the new battery fitted. I had an issue recently with a stop/start battery and was told that unless an annual mileage of around 10k the battery warranty would be void as low mileage usage was not sufficient to allow the battery to maintain itself. Used a smart charger overnight for 2 nights and battery was then OK good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratlegs Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 I've had this problem with a 206 for a long while, had to charge it once a week My mate plugged into his magic box came up in the results the battery had failed in2013 after that the black box thought it should always have a flat battery He reset it to factory settings no more trouble now it seems to drive better If you go for a new battery try the Battery Group near Barnsley Exide batteries much cheaper than I can get trade price through work and next day delivery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted November 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, TR1 said: What mileage has been done since the new battery fitted. I had an issue recently with a stop/start battery and was told that unless an annual mileage of around 10k the battery warranty would be void as low mileage usage was not sufficient to allow the battery to maintain itself. Used a smart charger overnight for 2 nights and battery was then OK good luck It was bought in 2020 sooooo... I am at the stage now where I've disconnected the battery completely and will fully charge it. If it then loses charge I can atleast say it is when it's sat doing nothing with nothing connected I've night it dropped by around 150. Would the alarm in dead lock mode do that much of a drain.. I don't know Edited November 29, 2022 by ShootingEgg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 I had a Range Rover with the same problem, installed a brand new super duper heavy duty battery, still the same and no parasitic drain. Somedays it would start and run fine others flat as a flat thing on a flat day. Bought one of these, end of problem https://www.halfords.com/motoring/battery-maintenance/jump-starters/noco-boost-x-gbx75-2500a-12v-ultrasafe-portable-lithium-jump-starter-581798.html?stockInventory=undefined&_gl=1*1tczisz*_up*MQ..&gclid=Cj0KCQiA-JacBhC0ARIsAIxybyOe_fEnxe-1rd1XeCYkH1kn5Ts5mkLol6krDEtE-QWYLYxieZo_cKkaAkh4EALw_wcB Sold the Range Rover, kept the jumper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 I was about to suggest charging the battery and then disconnecting it from the system and see if it loses the charge but it seems you have tried this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Applepress Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 Try a battery load tester. Your local garage should have one, it'll only take a few seconds to see if it's bad. Tested mine and found it was weak under load, replaced it and problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 15 hours ago, Centrepin said: I had a Range Rover with the same problem, installed a brand new super duper heavy duty battery, still the same and no parasitic drain. Somedays it would start and run fine others flat as a flat thing on a flat day. Over forty years ago my (mark1) Range Rover had exactly the same symptoms. Eventually traced the cause to the main battery lead sometimes rubbing on the chassis. It had, over the years, rubbed through the insulation. If I happened to park when the lead was touching the chassis it drained the battery. New lead and an extra clip sorted the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted November 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 I have driven it today and the Bluetooth for phone working then cut out, and stereo then kept cutting out but turning back on. So there is the potential gremlin. But now have to diagnose ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 5 hours ago, ShootingEgg said: I have driven it today and the Bluetooth for phone working then cut out, and stereo then kept cutting out but turning back on. So there is the potential gremlin. But now have to diagnose ..... Thats screaming earth fault but I know you've covered it. All my Landrovers have had at least 3 earth straps just to make sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted November 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 49 minutes ago, Centrepin said: Thats screaming earth fault but I know you've covered it. All my Landrovers have had at least 3 earth straps just to make sure. I have one onto the body and one onto starter motor. It's really annoying, one thing mentioned on some landrover forums is audio software update needed but that was for 2007 onward and mines an 11 plate so I'd of thought it would have had the update from the off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scutt Posted December 1, 2022 Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 place battery on a fast charge and look into each cell of one starts to bubble before the others then its a good indication of a cell shorting out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted December 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 8 hours ago, scutt said: place battery on a fast charge and look into each cell of one starts to bubble before the others then its a good indication of a cell shorting out. Yeah need to see if I can get to the cells Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 1, 2022 Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 sell car....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted December 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 6 hours ago, ditchman said: sell car....... Is an option yea haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 5 hours ago, ShootingEgg said: Is an option yea haha i couldnt live with a car not knowing wether it is going to start in the morning......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted December 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 14 hours ago, ditchman said: i couldnt live with a car not knowing wether it is going to start in the morning......... I use the train for commuting as and when I need and if I have to jump it from either my old series or the Mrs car then I do that. What I need to do is find the issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, ShootingEgg said: I use the train for commuting as and when I need and if I have to jump it from either my old series or the Mrs car then I do that. What I need to do is find the issue if you have got that continous niggling problem....good luck with that........i know of a few cases where the problem is never resolved...even after going to the agent at great expense.......Land rover is a prime example....my mate who works offshore had a twin turbo range rover all bells and whistles...had those and more bloody problems...i worked out what he spent on it in 10 years i could have bought a decent BMW.........someone told me how many metres of wiring there was on one of them 4x4's...jeeesus it was horrific Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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