pump action shotgun

[mossy835]

i would like to buy a pump action, but there was talk of not letting us keep them at home,after the last shooting,what do you think,

[TIGHTCHOKE]

2 minutes ago, mossy835 said:

i would like to buy a pump action, but there was talk of not letting us keep them at home,after the last shooting,what do you think,

I have a couple, great as a hide gun.

[Scully]

50 minutes ago, mossy835 said:

i would like to buy a pump action, but there was talk of not letting us keep them at home,after the last shooting,what do you think,

I have two, a S1 and a S2.
I can’t think where they would be kept if not at home. 🤷‍♂️

[mossy835]

so you dont think they would ban them,at the end of the day we will. have to wait and see.thanks

[.357shooter]

have heard a lot of things about what is comming through the pipeline but nothing about pump action shotguns.

[Scully]

9 minutes ago, mossy835 said:

so you dont think they would ban them,at the end of the day we will. have to wait and see.thanks

I’m not really following your train of thought here to be honest, because if they’re banned no one will be keeping them anywhere, let alone home, but no, I don’t think they’ll be banned. 
I genuinely can’t see the point, but there again I can’t see the point in the cf handgun ban, so who knows? 🤷‍♂️
 

[Ultrastu]

It would be a case of picking off guns one by one .semi autos .pumps .silenced ones .lever action . Single barrel folders  then ou's till they have all gone .it's obvious  a pump  holds absolutely no more threat or risk to anyone  than any other gun .but they will try to chip away .

[bluesj]

One problem is that different forces make up there own rules, If I lived just 20 mile down the road in the next county I couldn't have some of the things I have got.

[Scully]

1 minute ago, bluesj said:

One problem is that different forces make up there own rules, If I lived just 20 mile down the road in the next county I couldn't have some of the things I have got.

Really? Any examples? 

[bluesj]

7 minutes ago, Scully said:

Really? Any examples? 

Would rather not say but how can something be ok in one county but not the next and yet I can and do travel to that county with it and use it!

[Sweet11-87]

if youve got a valid reason to own somthing and they decline id be persuing it. otherwise they will squeeze you everytime and thats section 1,  as for a 3 shot pump action  if you've got a section 2  its apsolutly nothing to do with them just let them know after the fact.

 

the proposal to ban having pump actions at home was some apsolutly half baked proposal by some nobody backbencher. he got his 10 minutes, and he was questioned after why he didnt propose semi auto, he didnt know what one was he shut up about it and it went no further. he was just doing the rounds to show hes trying to do somthing when hes knocking on doors in his constituency which i think was where it happened.  

They ever approch it again and im asked upon renewal its becasue im left handed and they tend to be neutral cast and i personally find them safer in a confined pigeon hide as i can load them with the muzzle outside of the hide and in a safe direction at all times.  job done..... not saying a sxs or O/U isnt safe.

[Scully]

2 hours ago, bluesj said:

Would rather not say but how can something be ok in one county but not the next and yet I can and do travel to that county with it and use it!

I can’t answer that question unless you give examples. 🤷‍♂️

Your licensing authority does not have the authority to act in the manner you describe. 

[bluesj]

20 hours ago, Scully said:

I can’t answer that question unless you give examples. 🤷‍♂️

Your licensing authority does not have the authority to act in the manner you describe. 

Lets just say its a self loading firearm that isn't a .22

Mine is ok, its the one next door that is the making up the rules (or maybe not) but thats not a problem to me just a sign that not all police forces are not interpreting the rules in the same way.

[WalkedUp]

I have two in my safe currently, I wouldn’t worry about it. 

[Genghis]

On 04/09/2023 at 18:00, Scully said:

I’m not really following your train of thought here to be honest, because if they’re banned no one will be keeping them anywhere, let alone home, but no, I don’t think they’ll be banned. 
I genuinely can’t see the point, but there again I can’t see the point in the cf handgun ban, so who knows? 🤷‍♂️
 

Labour MP Luke Pollard was specifically looking for pump action shotguns to be banned from being stored at home, and only allowed storage at gun clubs.

 

Sweet 11-87 covers my additional thoughts with his comment.

[Scully]

1 hour ago, bluesj said:

Lets just say its a self loading firearm that isn't a .22

Mine is ok, its the one next door that is the making up the rules (or maybe not) but thats not a problem to me just a sign that not all police forces are not interpreting the rules in the same way.

Cryptic replies do nothing to get the question answered either. 🤷‍♂️
If the self loader (semi automatic ) is anything other than a shotgun ( as it’s not a .22rf ) then whomever owns it is doing so illegally, regardless of which licensing authority it’s under. 
If any person can show ‘good reason’ to own a S1 self loading or pump action shotgun then there’s little a licensing authority can do but authorise it. 

[Scully]

23 minutes ago, Genghis said:

Labour MP Luke Pollard was specifically looking for pump action shotguns to be banned from being stored at home, and only allowed storage at gun clubs.

 

 

Yes, but he’s an idiot. I think they’d be banned totally before that happened as it’s totally impractical. 
Not all pump action owners belong to a club. 
 

[bluesj]

3 minutes ago, Scully said:

Cryptic replies do nothing to get the question answered either. 🤷‍♂️
If the self loader (semi automatic ) is anything other than a shotgun ( as it’s not a .22rf ) then whomever owns it is doing so illegally, regardless of which licensing authority it’s under. 
If any person can show ‘good reason’ to own a S1 self loading or pump action shotgun then there’s little a licensing authority can do but authorise it. 

No they are not, semi autos are restricted not banned! I know a few people with them.

The only question (not that I asked it) is how can the law be enforced differently  around the country?

[Scully]

1 hour ago, bluesj said:

No they are not, semi autos are restricted not banned! I know a few people with them.

The only question (not that I asked it) is how can the law be enforced differently  around the country?

Give me strength! I never said semi autos are banned! I own two myself! They’re not even restricted; where have you got that from? 
I asked you to give examples of licensing authorities making their own rules up, and after stating you’d rather not say you said’ Let’s just say it’s a self loading ( self loading is semi automatic ) firearm that isn’t a .22’. Right, so that makes it a shotgun then as anything else which is self loading other than a rf rifle or a shotgun, is banned in the UK. 
If you insist on playing charades instead of stating specific examples ( this isn’t Russia and Putin isn’t listening ) then I’m out, and therefore can’t help nor advise. 

[Gordon R]

Scully - I share your frustration. Posters make bizarre claims, but can't or won't back them up. It does make me smile.

[Scully]

26 minutes ago, Gordon R said:

Scully - I share your frustration. Posters make bizarre claims, but can't or won't back them up. It does make me smile.

Strange indeed! 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Does he possibly mean "RESTRICTED" in as much as being able to hold 2+1 cartridges and this has caused some terrible misunderstanding?

[bluesj]

9 hours ago, Scully said:

Give me strength! I never said semi autos are banned! I own two myself! They’re not even restricted; where have you got that from? 
I asked you to give examples of licensing authorities making their own rules up, and after stating you’d rather not say you said’ Let’s just say it’s a self loading ( self loading is semi automatic ) firearm that isn’t a .22’. Right, so that makes it a shotgun then as anything else which is self loading other than a rf rifle or a shotgun, is banned in the UK. 
If you insist on playing charades instead of stating specific examples ( this isn’t Russia and Putin isn’t listening ) then I’m out, and therefore can’t help nor advise. 

I know a few people that have semi auto hand gums on their FAC a couple of 9mm (with moderators)  a 380 and 3 or4 .32acp. because they have shown they have a good reason to have them.

So not banned, very much restricted but not banned or at least not in all county's.

The point is different forces can and do interpret and apply the law / rules in different ways. 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

So back to the OP's original story of PUMP ACTION SHOTGUNS not being allowed to be stored at a home address.

That was debunked quite quickly.

Everything else is either guess work, supposition or unable to be backed up with anything solid.

[Scully]

55 minutes ago, bluesj said:

I know a few people that have semi auto hand gums on their FAC a couple of 9mm (with moderators)  a 380 and 3 or4 .32acp. because they have shown they have a good reason to have them.

So not banned, very much restricted but not banned or at least not in all county's.

The point is different forces can and do interpret and apply the law / rules in different ways. 

Ah right! Now we’re getting somewhere! I thought we were talking about shotguns but you’re talking about handguns! My apologies. 
No need to speak in cryptic hushed tones, quite legal to own ( subject to a minimum length with a permanently fixed arm brace ) in ANY county- yes, even ‘next door’ - in the UK as long as you can show ‘good reason’, which is target shooting as a member of a HO approved club.