Gamebore carts exported to Belgium

[Fargo]

Made here, exported there. Few variants we don’t get here and being Belgium it’s all plastic or bio wads- no fibre .

[Sweet11-87]

id like to know the cost.  i know kent cartridges in the US are made by gamebore and theyre about the same as here even after shipping lead over the atlantic.

[Fargo]

1 hour ago, Sweet11-87 said:

id like to know the cost.  i know kent cartridges in the US are made by gamebore and theyre about the same as here even after shipping lead over the atlantic.

I’ll ask my Belgian mate to get some prices 

[HantsRob]

2 hours ago, Fargo said:

I’ll ask my Belgian mate to get some prices 

Any thoughts of why no fibre wads in Belgium? Is it they are "behind the times" (I'd think not as they have bio), or just don't think they perform? Or just like a cup for better patterning?

[rbrowning2]

18 minutes ago, HantsRob said:

Any thoughts of why no fibre wads in Belgium? Is it they are "behind the times" (I'd think not as they have bio), or just don't think they perform? Or just like a cup for better patterning?

possibly because they have banned the use of lead. 

[Fargo]

3 hours ago, HantsRob said:

Any thoughts of why no fibre wads in Belgium? Is it they are "behind the times" (I'd think not as they have bio), or just don't think they perform? Or just like a cup for better patterning?

No lead in a lot of Belgium but one part you still can.

Every European country I hunted in they won’t use fibre. Down to cost and availability. Even in Hungary I was buying plastic black gold 5’s for ducks cheaper than here.

[HantsRob]

I do find it odd how the drive to go away from lead has pushed more plastic out there. 

Thanks for the answers!

[Fellside]

The world outside of the UK has (mostly) used plastic since it was available. It’s only our precious little sceptered isle where fibre is so prevalent in the countryside - as we don’t like flinging plastic across our fields. This is often seen as a quirky Brit’ thing abroad - and there is often a view that fibre cart’s are ballistically hopeless…….?!

[London Best]

52 minutes ago, Fellside said:

and there is often a view that fibre cart’s are ballistically hopeless…….?!

I wonder where that daft idea came from? 
I never use anything else and they work just fine all the time. 
I don’t like plastic because I don’t like plastic streaks in my barrels. I find it a swine to remove. Quite apart from the litter.

[Centrepin]

1 hour ago, London Best said:

I wonder where that daft idea came from? 
I never use anything else and they work just fine all the time. 
I don’t like plastic because I don’t like plastic streaks in my barrels. I find it a swine to remove. Quite apart from the litter.

I use fibre cos I hate seeing little plastic wads all over and don't wish to contribute to the mess, that includes clay grounds.

Ballistically hopeless? I think not.

[Fargo]

French won’t use fibre

Spanish 95% wont

Hungary trying find a fibre is very hard unless someone imported Hull game loads 

Just now, Fargo said:

French won’t use fibre

Spanish 95% wont

Hungary trying find a fibre is very hard unless someone imported Hull game loads 

Pic is loads used on a game day in Hungary I was on

1 minute ago, Fargo said:

French won’t use fibre

Spanish 95% wont

Hungary trying find a fibre is very hard unless someone imported Hull game loads 

Pic is loads used on a game day in Hungary I was on

Big shot sizes , big payloads and plastic only

They like 2/3/4/5 for pheasant there!

[Fellside]

2 hours ago, London Best said:

I wonder where that daft idea came from? 
I never use anything else and they work just fine all the time. 
I don’t like plastic because I don’t like plastic streaks in my barrels. I find it a swine to remove. Quite apart from the litter.

Couldn’t agree more. If they were to observe a typical UK game shooting day - it would leave them in no doubt as to the efficiency of fibre. 

[Fellside]

2 hours ago, Centrepin said:

Ballistically hopeless? I think not.

Not my view BTW. It’s just what the general opinion is outside the UK. Beyond our shores there doesn’t seem to be a perceived need for fibre…. which I have always found odd. 
Like so many here, I use nothing but fibre these days, for clays also. 

[London Best]

2 hours ago, Fellside said:

It’s just what the general opinion is outside the UK

People are idiots. We once had a large American corporation book a pheasant day as part of a week’s shooting across the U.K. The boss man brought his own gun but gave detailed instructions about what “shells” he needed. He insisted on 1 1/4 ounce loads of American No.4 or equivalent. When my friend, the booking agent and shoot captain, told him he didn’t need such stuff and that he always used 15/16 ounce loads of English No.6 from a 16 bore with improved cylinder bores the American laughed and said, “you can’t shoot very many”. Little did he know.

[Dave at kelton]

I am trying to avoid chucking plastic out even with steel on the shore. Starting to use the Claygame 10 bore shot cups with felt and card cup obturators. See how the season goes when I use them.

[grahamch]

Gamebore do lots of steel loads for the continent we cant get here due to our outdated CIP regs.

[London Best]

17 minutes ago, grahamch said:

Gamebore do lots of steel loads for the continent we cant get here due to our outdated CIP regs.

Surely CIP regs apply on most of continual Europe. The SAAMI regs are the American version.

Edited September 19, 2023 by London Best

[shotmaker]

On 15/09/2023 at 11:39, Sweet11-87 said:

id like to know the cost.  i know kent cartridges in the US are made by gamebore and theyre about the same as here even after shipping lead over the atlantic.

Kent cartridges are made in West Virginia, USA, they're not exported from the UK.

[Sweet11-87]

4 hours ago, shotmaker said:

Kent cartridges are made in West Virginia, USA, they're not exported from the UK.

the diamand shot is still dropped in hull unless im mistaken. so the lead is still going over the atlantic. and im sure some of the loads were made in the uk

"Kent manufactures a wide range of shotgun shells, loaded at our factory in West Virginia. We also have a sales and distribution office located in Ontario, Canada, servicing our friends to the North. In addition to the two North American locations, we also have a sister company in the U.K., the Gamebore Cartridge Company, that manufactures our proprietary shot such as Bismuth®, Tungsten Matrix®, and our premium lead shot, commonly known as Diamond Shot®."

 

ripped directly off the kent website.

Edited September 19, 2023 by Sweet11-87

[wymberley]

On 18/09/2023 at 11:16, London Best said:

I wonder where that daft idea came from? 

Possibly got confused with the shotgun itself which to our advantage is, ballistically speaking, totally hopeless.

[London Best]

32 minutes ago, wymberley said:

Possibly got confused with the shotgun itself which to our advantage is, ballistically speaking, totally hopeless.

You must be doing something wrong.
 Mine work like a magic wand.

[wymberley]

1 hour ago, London Best said:

You must be doing something wrong.

You sound just like my wife. 

The ballistic inefficiency of a shotgun - also called a scattergun for good reason would be better if they were at least consistent - imagine being able to do a pattern test with just one shot.

[Fellside]

2 hours ago, London Best said:

You must be doing something wrong.
 Mine work like a magic wand.

My wand occasionally needs a little extra magic from Harry Potter.

[London Best]

11 minutes ago, Fellside said:

My wand occasionally needs a little extra magic from Harry Potter.

Was he a Birmingham maker?

[Fellside]

2 hours ago, London Best said:

Was he a Birmingham maker?

😆 No London.