armsid Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Reading about the farmers protesting in France it seems that the EU is determined to ruin everyone in Europe by importing from South America rather than home grown just to meet net zero and force more regulations on farmers and we know regulations means more none jobs at great expense all to go green interesting times ahead for the EU and Europe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, armsid said: Reading about the farmers protesting in France it seems that the EU is determined to ruin everyone in Europe by importing from South America rather than home grown just to meet net zero and force more regulations on farmers and we know regulations means more none jobs at great expense all to go green interesting times ahead for the EU and Europe I wouldn't call them interesting in any shape or form, just pure insanity like we have here. The lunatics are running the asylum and will totally wreck our standard of living and food and energy security for absolutely nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 How long till this one gets locked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 7 hours ago, Weihrauch17 said: I wouldn't call them interesting in any shape or form, just pure insanity like we have here. The lunatics are running the asylum and will totally wreck our standard of living and food and energy security for absolutely nothing. exactly this! unless every country is singing from the same hymn sheet what's the point. as an example the UK is a miniscule contributor to the (so called) causes of climate change (1% ish) but is on a pointless crusade down the path to nett zero to make "zero" difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellors Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 Don't worry when we (won't) get to net zero and produce nothing we can blame every other country for polluting. Then they'll stop making and growing stuff for us to cut there emissions. We're doomed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 That is what net zero is all about. For the UK to meet its legally binding NET ZERO obligations ( although I thought they’d been put ‘on hold’ as it were ) they will have to rely on importing its energy needs from countries such as China for example. This in turn ramps up the emissions of those countries doing the supplying, therefore making absolutely no difference to emissions on a global scale, but the UK will have met its obligations! Clever eh! 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 To become net zero we have to dig up yet more minerals from the earth, which in turn is probably one of the main factors and causes of all the changes. By trying to fix this supposed issue we are creating more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 (edited) How big does one’s ego have to be, to think we can control mother nature, or understand her for that matter. Edited February 4 by Newbie to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 10 hours ago, Weihrauch17 said: I wouldn't call them interesting in any shape or form, just pure insanity like we have here. The lunatics are running the asylum and will totally wreck our standard of living and food and energy security for absolutely nothing. They will and not give a flying fig for the little people. This green cobblers is so barmy that maybe it will fall over big time in a much shorter time span than the goons imagine? 2 hours ago, mellors said: Don't worry when we (won't) get to net zero and produce nothing we can blame every other country for polluting. Then they'll stop making and growing stuff for us to cut there emissions. We're doomed. Mm, we have been pushed down that path for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acerforestry Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 The UK media seems to have a general blackout on the situation in Europe - there have been extensive protests in France, Belgium, Holland, Romania, to name a few and now beginning also in Ireland. If I go on BBC World news online- nothing. Why is this? You would think a major convoy of tractors decending on Brussels would be newsworthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, Acerforestry said: The UK media seems to have a general blackout on the situation in Europe - there have been extensive protests in France, Belgium, Holland, Romania, to name a few and now beginning also in Ireland. If I go on BBC World news online- nothing. Why is this? You would think a major convoy of tractors decending on Brussels would be newsworthy We don't want the populace to get excited, the bbc is only interested in over paying mindless presenters to push out meaningless stuff to further their own agenda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 13 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: How big does one’s ego have to be to think we can control mother nature, or understand her for that matter. This. ☝️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, Scully said: This. ☝️ ☝️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acerforestry Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 Old man, agreed on all counts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoli 12 guage Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 1 hour ago, Acerforestry said: The UK media seems to have a general blackout on the situation in Europe - there have been extensive protests in France, Belgium, Holland, Romania, to name a few and now beginning also in Ireland. If I go on BBC World news online- nothing. Why is this? You would think a major convoy of tractors decending on Brussels would be newsworthy you're watching the wrong channels bud. it's on GB NEWS daily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acerforestry Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 Yes I used to watch GB news but stopped when Mark Steyn came off - I'll get back to it this week and try to get a more sensible idea of what is really happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 Just as a heads up - I heard that there was a large collection of Welsh farmers that met at Welshpool last week (in the order of 1000) - and while reffing a Skeet comp yesterday I asked two guys who are involved in Welsh farming if it was true - it was - and they hinted there was more to come… it isn’t only happening across the channel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 On 03/02/2024 at 22:16, armsid said: Reading about the farmers protesting in France it seems that the EU is determined to ruin everyone in Europe by importing from South America rather than home grown just to meet net zero and force more regulations on farmers and we know regulations means more none jobs at great expense all to go green interesting times ahead for the EU and Europe Happening Europe wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 23 hours ago, Newbie to this said: How big does one’s ego have to be, to think we can control mother nature, or understand her for that matter. It is not about, nor has it every been about about controlling nature, but controlling humans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 9 hours ago, discobob said: Just as a heads up - I heard that there was a large collection of Welsh farmers that met at Welshpool last week (in the order of 1000) - and while reffing a Skeet comp yesterday I asked two guys who are involved in Welsh farming if it was true - it was - and they hinted there was more to come… it isn’t only happening across the channel Yes, I was sent some info on that, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 10 hours ago, discobob said: Just as a heads up - I heard that there was a large collection of Welsh farmers that met at Welshpool last week (in the order of 1000) - and while reffing a Skeet comp yesterday I asked two guys who are involved in Welsh farming if it was true - it was - and they hinted there was more to come… it isn’t only happening across the channel Does that mean that the Men of Harlech will be joining the Eaters of Garlic? I'll get my coat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 (edited) 4 minutes ago, amateur said: Does that mean that the Men of Harlech will be joining the Eaters of Garlic? I'll get my coat Get your hat as well................. Edited February 5 by TIGHTCHOKE Missing an R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 5 minutes ago, amateur said: Does that mean that the Men of Harlech will be joining the Eaters of Garlic? I'll get my coat Made me chuckle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 17 minutes ago, Penelope said: Made me chuckle. Thank you. I'ts nice to be appreciated. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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