Best second hand PCP?

[villaman]

Hw100k probably the best of the shelf pcp made and that’s why it’s been one of the best selling as well  

if you want something a bit cheaper but new then bsa ultra 

On 24/04/2024 at 13:38, eggy74 said:

Cant go wrong with a hw100. the shot count isnt up there with the bottle guns but even in .177 carbine i get 4 mags (56 shots) before i need to refill, thats in sub 12ftlb, if you are after fac then a bsa r10 would be the one to go for.

R10 in FAC  😂There are far better FAC air than r-10

[bruno22rf]

AA S410 or 510 if you find one cheap (good luck!!), charge it to 170 bar and keep 50 pellets in a container, do your bit and the gun will put them through the same hole all day, every day.Nothing against the HW100, seen what they are capable of (clinical) but had 2 mates with leaking guns that Hull Cartridge never fixed. 

[oldypigeonpopper]

On 24/04/2024 at 17:56, Zoli 12 guage said:

so you've obviously never had a MK2 rapid then🤔🤔🤔

Hello, neither have I but who wants to lug about  a 7.5 llb air rifle and that is not including scope, , but a Rapid in FAC 🤔That is another matter

[grahamch]

On 24/04/2024 at 16:59, Ultrastu said:

If it was my money £700 ish 

I would buy a bsa ultra clx (60 shots in 177 .80 in .22 ) and a decent pump .Hills or fx . And that's it your done .it will work for ever and be light for hunting and accurate .

Went down the Ultra/pump route a few years ago, sold both Ultra reservoir small and pump too much like hard work!

[wildfowler.250]

On 26/04/2024 at 08:04, oldypigeonpopper said:

Hello, Where are you situated in UK ?? , The BSA R 10 i had in MK 1 and it never let me down, as same with an AA S410, both in 22, From my first PCP some 20 years ago with a Falcon Light Hunter , Most PCPs will give years of service if they are looked after and maintained well, ask Logunater on here who serviced my FX MK 1 22 Verminator He knows good from bad with PCPs

Central Scotland . There doesn’t seem to be many shops up this way. Easy enough to find gun shops but a decent airgun shop, I don’t think we have one.

is there anyone that’s good to buy with online? I know Ivythorn Sporting for example has a great rep for second hand rifles and is very honest with his descriptions. I just don’t know much about the airgun world

On 26/04/2024 at 10:17, Lloyd90 said:

Pros and cons of the top guns. 
 

AA S510, the safety is on the trigger, what the hell were they thinking?! 
Can be double loaded, the magazine sticks up above the action, is a bit more fiddly, can get an ultra lite version that’s very nice for carrying around. 
 

HW100, not as good looking, has a more traditional safety that’s not on the trigger, apparently can’t be double loaded, magazine is flush with the action so doesn’t protrude making having a rail easier (a big consideration for me with modern NV scopes you can swap between rifles). 
 

 

I am considering getting a HW100K and adding an after market cylinder that’s lighter. 

Air arms seems to come up more. Are they better than BSA? Even at a new price, the R10 seems very reasonable. Should be able to get a second hand thumbhole at a reasonable budget

Edited April 28 by wildfowler.250

[Stonepark]

13 minutes ago, wildfowler.250 said:

Central Scotland . There doesn’t seem to be many shops up this way. Easy enough to find gun shops but a decent airgun shop, I don’t think we have one.

If they are still open, Livelines in Armadale are airgun specialists.

[wildfowler.250]

17 hours ago, Stonepark said:

If they are still open, Livelines in Armadale are airgun specialists.

Thanks! Will look them up!

[Mice!]

18 hours ago, wildfowler.250 said:

Air arms seems to come up more. Are they better than BSA? Even at a new price, the R10 seems very reasonable. Should be able to get a second hand thumbhole at a reasonable budget

Both go round in circles with nothing much between them, it's like I said above you'll prefer one over the other if you can handle both, the R10 has a better shot count,  but it has a bottle so its heavier,  AA are well known and have a great rep with no reg issues but are a longer gun.

It will probably just come down to what you want to spend and what you can get hold of, shooting either compared to a springer will make you think wow, some always say springers are just as accurate and for some with well tuned guns they are, but I can shoot my R10 right handed, left handed,  one handed off sticks or at a silly angle and she does the job, no need to worry about the hold being just right, just ***** the wind and range then Pfft Whack drop 😉 

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, They have 2 good second hand PCPs in stock, in 22, 1 a Brocock Hunter, 2 a BSA Scorpion T 10, The T 10 looks good for £300

Edited April 29 by oldypigeonpopper

[wildfowler.250]

Cheers folks. I’m pretty set on getting a HW100T in .177 . They seem to get more positive feedback than the R10. And I like the build quality of the 77K I have anyway so makes sense.

Biggest pain is I’ll need to fit a QD stud for a bipod because I much prefer shooting prone. Is this easy enough to do? I can’t understand why they don’t come with one fitted?

 

Are all dive bottles equal? Any dos or don’ts? I was hoping to find one with a full lot for sale but I think most folk keep the bottles and change the rifles.

 

 

Thanks!

Edited April 30 by wildfowler.250

[oldypigeonpopper]

Hello, Before you think of an Air Cylinder i would check out where you can get filled local to you, A Dive shop or Gun shop, You need 300 Bar, and come in 3/5/7/12 Ltr , Bigger is better if you do not need to fill rifle out shooting, The HW 100 T in 177 should get quite a few shots per fill depending on size of air tube, 50/60 carbine/ 100/120 full length

Edited April 30 by oldypigeonpopper

[JKD]

1 hour ago, wildfowler.250 said:

Cheers folks. I’m pretty set on getting a HW100T in .177 . They seem to get more positive feedback than the R10. And I like the build quality of the 77K I have anyway so makes sense.

Biggest pain is I’ll need to fit a QD stud for a bipod because I much prefer shooting prone. Is this easy enough to do? I can’t understand why they don’t come with one fitted?

 

Are all dive bottles equal? Any dos or don’ts? I was hoping to find one with a full lot for sale but I think most folk keep the bottles and change the rifles.

 

 

Thanks!

BEST FITTINGS do a replacement front stock screw/QR Stud 😉

[.357shooter]

Have got both .177 hw100ktl carbine,heavy accurate and with mine I get about 90 shots per fill.no problems in about 6 years .the s510 in .22 is just as accurate but weighs about 2lbs lighter.nothing to choose between them.hw was a bit dearer, quality seems very close.just down to which you like the look of.

 

[Lloyd90]

On 01/05/2024 at 20:15, .357shooter said:

Have got both .177 hw100ktl carbine,heavy accurate and with mine I get about 90 shots per fill.no problems in about 6 years .the s510 in .22 is just as accurate but weighs about 2lbs lighter.nothing to choose between them.hw was a bit dearer, quality seems very close.just down to which you like the look of.

 

What model of the 510 you get? 

[oldypigeonpopper]

On 24/04/2024 at 10:45, wildfowler.250 said:

Folks I’m going to move across from my weihrauch springer to a pcp. I just think I’ll get more accuracy at longer distances and a quieter gun so will probably use it more. Loathed to fork out lots. Maybe £700 at a guess. I have scopes I can use so really it’s rifle and dive tank.

 

What rifle would you suggest? I like the look of the HW 100 but are air arms or bsa better? I think the HW has a small ish tank.

 

i basically want a buy once, cry once multi shot. It won’t be used a lot but it won’t go wrong either.

 

 

ive thought about buying a silencer for the 77K and having it serviced but the silencer alone is about £90 and I suspect it still won’t be able to match a pcp as good as it is .

 

 

Appreciate any opinions!

Hello, Where did you see 77 K silencers for £90 , there are alternatives, NM products

Edited May 3 by oldypigeonpopper

[.357shooter]

10 hours ago, Lloyd90 said:

What model of the 510 you get? 

Only the walnut s510 carbine.retails at just under a grand.very pleased with it.

 

[Vince Green]

On 24/04/2024 at 19:33, Mice! said:

Everyone will say what they like,  Airguns don't seem to be selling that well at the moment so I'd say it's a buyers market. 

I'd try and see what's local, find a couple if you can and shoulder them, you'll find one that fits and others that don't. 

I'd add the R10 Mk11 into the mix, you'll pick one up for 4-500.

See what's about then ask what follk think of the price.

Nothing is selling well in the gun world at the moment. If Labour get in at the general election it can only get worse.