ditchman Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 Yup............here we go again folks.........the lie machines grinds into action again.....well oiled as usual...... the politicos take us the people as fools..........that is the big problem ...the total disregard of the electorates intelligence..(im talking about normal folk here) who comes out with the best lies ...wins....thats what the parties bank on...........i remember when corbyn was in the acendency...jesus christ he came out with some awful porkies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 Hello, You would not think that a Prime Minister would lie to the People in the UK 🤔 Yet that was one of the Boris Johnson downfalls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 19 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, You would not think that a Prime Minister would lie to the People in the UK 🤔 Yet that was one of the Boris Johnson downfalls Tony blair told bigger whoppers and got away with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 10 Author Report Share Posted June 10 18 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, You would not think that a Prime Minister would lie to the People in the UK 🤔 Yet that was one of the Boris Johnson downfalls all of their downfalls...........the bleedin lot of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 1 hour ago, welsh1 said: Tony blair told bigger whoppers and got away with it Hello, Ah yes, perhaps they should be known as the lying PMs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jega Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 Just so they don't feel left out ,the lying Liberals are of the same colour . " I will not increase university tuition fees" Nick Clegg 4 weeks before he agreed with his coalition partner dodgy Dave Cameron to treble them from £3000 to £9000 a year . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, welsh1 said: Tony blair told bigger whoppers and got away with it And The War Criminal got a award for it Edited June 10 by Bigbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 10 Author Report Share Posted June 10 22 minutes ago, Bigbob said: And The War Criminal got a award for it when he came to power he had a 50% mortgage on his house ....then he got friendly with Mandy and whe he left power he had a £60 million property portfolio need i say more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 Rachel Reeves (Labour Shadow Chancellor) on TV this morning suggesting that they would pay for all their implausible promises by getting tough on tax avoiders I hope they plan to start with Angela Raynor. The idea that they are going to get the Civil Service to get off their lazy backsides and actually do something that they should be doing anyway is just laughable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 30 minutes ago, Vince Green said: The idea that they are going to get the Civil Service to get off their lazy backsides and actually do something that they should be doing anyway is just laughable IIRC they are going to spend 1 billion on this and employ another 1000 lazy chair polishers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 16 hours ago, Yellow Bear said: IIRC they are going to spend 1 billion on this and employ another 1000 lazy chair polishers Some potentially criminal statements made by Civil Service employees about Farage by all accounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 11 Author Report Share Posted June 11 aaahhhhh the "PLEDGES" are starting apear/come out now..........looking in the dictionary " a pledge is a serious/solomn promise".............. they make knowing full well they wont keep them...i think that is worse than a lie........... they must think we are awful fools...........i feel so insulted i cant tell you how low the politicos are in my estimation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 20 hours ago, Vince Green said: The idea that they are going to get the Civil Service to get off their lazy backsides and actually do something that they should be doing anyway is just laughable /\. This - although in my view it's less being lazy and more being downright disobedient/uncooperative. Granted the recent situation where they shirk work from home is appallingly lazy. Apparently the current average is 2.1 days a week in the office. The bigger (in my view) problem is that the process is failing. What should happen is that; Cabinet sets 'policy'. Civil servants are supposed to draft legislation to enact that policy. Government then puts that through Parliament and gets Royal ascent. Appropriate departments (Home Office, Foreign Office, Treasury, Ministries) which are civil service sections overseen by a Minister/ministers and their minions/operating arms (Police Service, Courts Service, Armed Forces, Ambassadors and FCO staff, HMRC, DVLA, Dept of Health, DWP, DTI etc) ensure that the policy as enacted in law is carried out across the country/world. That process is broken - in my view at stages 2 and 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 Just more amusement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 5 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: /\. This - although in my view it's less being lazy and more being downright disobedient/uncooperative. Granted the recent situation where they shirk work from home is appallingly lazy. Apparently the current average is 2.1 days a week in the office. The bigger (in my view) problem is that the process is failing. What should happen is that; Cabinet sets 'policy'. Civil servants are supposed to draft legislation to enact that policy. Government then puts that through Parliament and gets Royal ascent. Appropriate departments (Home Office, Foreign Office, Treasury, Ministries) which are civil service sections overseen by a Minister/ministers and their minions/operating arms (Police Service, Courts Service, Armed Forces, Ambassadors and FCO staff, HMRC, DVLA, Dept of Health, DWP, DTI etc) ensure that the policy as enacted in law is carried out across the country/world. That process is broken - in my view at stages 2 and 4. I have a mental image of a Civil Servant as being a rather straight laced, slightly boring, middle class British person. Nothing could be further from the truth. As a legacy of the Blair/ Brown era any Commonwealth or EU National can apply to become a Civil Servant So now we could well have non British born Civil Servants processing immigration applications, implementing Brexit or approving benefits payments. Who knows where their true political and national allegiances lie? Who's side are they really on ? The anecdotal evidence is very worrying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 11 Author Report Share Posted June 11 we have EU citizens and had EU citizens working as SPADS and reasearchers in the 10 Downing street sphere..............bloody spies....and traitors appaling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 1 hour ago, ditchman said: we have EU citizens and had EU citizens working as SPADS and reasearchers in the 10 Downing street sphere..............bloody spies....and traitors appaling Yep! You really couldn't make it up could you? And then we wonder why we are in the state we are in ? Back at the time of the Brexit Referendrum my late mother had a live in carer called Katerina who was Hungarian. Katerina and her Husband both received poll cards and voted in the Referendrum despite not actually being eligible. I know its true because I saw their cards. How did that happen? Did some faceless official just make a mistake? Or was it a deliberate attempt to tilt the odds in favour of remain? I have always wondered how many other 'non eligible' EU Nationals also received cards to vote ? I learned that as soon as they arrived in this country Eastern Europeans were told to get their details registered on the Electoral Register because they needed to be on there to pass the security identity checks carried out when they opened bank accounts, got a mobile phone, claimed benefits or registered their kids for school or doctors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 11 Author Report Share Posted June 11 nothing is done by mistake ..........its usually by design its sickening.......undemocratic.........unfair..decietful......just wrong these are the conditions that cause conflict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richardpunts Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 I’m just sick of it , the last time I tried to register I spoke to a young lady that didn’t sound like a local to me , hung up on me because my address didn’t come up on the register they work off of, yet all other agencies, police, passport, inland revenue are quite happy with my address I’ll try again to see if I get to vote but , I’m not expecting miracles then that brings the next quandary?.? WHO ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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