Mungler Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 And this is why normal people (ie the silent majority) need to get behind Reform. The state of this Country right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 Good on Nigel and Co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 I’ve just joined Reform and sent them £25. Whilst the Tories are still busily eating themselves at least Reform are getting involved in real world issues. I saw in the news a gang of 4 in London stabbed some kid on a train and kicked him near to death. Charged with GBH, early guilty please and sentences from 18 months to 33 months That’s out in 9 months, but more likely out in 5 or 6 on a tag - for a 4 on 1 train attack and opening up a teenager with a zombie knife. But some hurty words on Facey and you’re getting 3 years. Something is very wrong right now and we can all feel it and see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 1 minute ago, Mungler said: I’ve just joined Reform and sent them £25. Whilst the Tories are still busily eating themselves at least Reform are getting involved in real world issues. I saw in the news a gang of 4 in London stabbed some kid on a train and kicked him near to death. Charged with GBH, early guilty please and sentences from 18 months to 33 months That’s out in 9 months, but more likely out in 5 or 6 on a tag - for a 4 on 1 train attack and opening up a teenager with a zombie knife. But some hurty words on Facey and you’re getting 3 years. Something is very wrong right now and we can all feel it and see it. I think it is called a Labour government who are all talk, waffle and bluster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 hot air and bluster farage style the idiot couldn’t run a tap let alone country! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 8 minutes ago, clangerman said: hot air and bluster farage style the idiot couldn’t run a tap let alone country! lol Would you mind expanding on your issue with Farage, some specific issues and verifiable facts if possible. I accept his approach can be bullish at times, but my personal view, is in modern times of wooly rhetoric, where feelings have become more important than reality to some. Unfortunately speaking the truth and being brutally honest has become more important than ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 5 minutes ago, clangerman said: hot air and bluster farage style the idiot couldn’t run a tap let alone country! lol Well, I doubt Reform could do any worse than the current government. Indeed, ignoring actions and deeds, just looking at the CVs of the current cabinet we’re screwed - they really are a bunch of thickos with very little experience of anything outside of politicking. What Reform will do is force a shake up of the Tories and force the Tories taking a step to the right. Indeed, the Tories can’t win another election whilst Reform are around and so there will be a merger at some point, because there has to be. Labour won’t get a second term - it’s going to be a long and dismal 5 years of their screwing everything up, but that’s the usual cycle and no surprises there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 1 minute ago, 12gauge82 said: Would you mind expanding on your issue with Farage, some specific issues and verifiable facts if possible. I accept his approach can be bullish at times, but my personal view, is in modern times of wooly rhetoric, where feelings have become more important than reality to some. Unfortunately speaking the truth and being brutally honest has become more important than ever. proof of the pudding is in history not one party has EVER been full of anything but hot air false promises and out right lies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 2 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: Would you mind expanding on your issue with Farage, some specific issues and verifiable facts if possible. I accept his approach can be bullish at times, but my personal view, is in modern times of wooly rhetoric, where feelings have become more important than reality to some. Unfortunately speaking the truth and being brutally honest has become more important than ever. Indeed, his once lone stance on mass immigration, was unpopular but is now increasingly accepted. Time will show he was on the right side of that. I also think time will show he was on the right side of leaving the EU (and the ECHR). All the lefties I see on line are starting to cry less about leaving the EU as the EU member states lurch to the right and the economic EU dream starts to unravel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 4 minutes ago, Mungler said: Labour won’t get a second term - it’s going to be a long and dismal 5 years of their screwing everything up, but that’s the usual cycle and no surprises there. exactly same barrel different rats hence I never vote to avoid feeling a fool when shaving! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 2 minutes ago, clangerman said: exactly same barrel different rats hence I never vote to avoid feeling a fool when shaving! lol People want too much of their government; they want their government to wipe their bottom and magically fix all of their problems. I want my government like that of Hong Kong in its hey day - small, inexpensive to run, non intrusive and providing a basic state function in return for levying a flat 10% tax rate. When people say they don’t vote, I like to look at the last election result for the Billericay constituency (a couple of miles down the road from me). A few extra votes would have made all the difference. Granted, if you want more of the same uni party then whatever happens your getting uni party. A bit of Reform will at least shake some of the parties up. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 Quote proof of the pudding is in history not one party has EVER been full of anything but hot air false promises and out right lies! Faced with facts like these, who could disagree with you. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, clangerman said: proof of the pudding is in history not one party has EVER been full of anything but hot air false promises and out right lies! Your not wrong. But reform is a radically different party. I'm not saying they won't slip into that same mold, but they're the best chance of change we've got. There hasn't been another viable party to vote for in living memory and for me, the biggest difference with Farage from virtually every other politician, is that he doesn't want to be in power, he's driven by passion for fixing this broken country, if there was someone else who could instill change, he'd let them do it instead. Those who want to lead, shouldnt be allowed, Farage doesn't want it. Edited October 7 by 12gauge82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 1 hour ago, Mungler said: Well, I doubt Reform could do any worse than the current government. Indeed, ignoring actions and deeds, just looking at the CVs of the current cabinet we’re screwed - they really are a bunch of thickos with very little experience of anything outside of politicking. What Reform will do is force a shake up of the Tories and force the Tories taking a step to the right. Indeed, the Tories can’t win another election whilst Reform are around and so there will be a merger at some point, because there has to be. Labour won’t get a second term - it’s going to be a long and dismal 5 years of their screwing everything up, but that’s the usual cycle and no surprises there. Hello, Your right on the last paragraph 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 2 hours ago, Mungler said: Well, I doubt Reform could do any worse than the current government. Indeed, ignoring actions and deeds, just looking at the CVs of the current cabinet we’re screwed - they really are a bunch of thickos with very little experience of anything outside of politicking. What Reform will do is force a shake up of the Tories and force the Tories taking a step to the right. Indeed, the Tories can’t win another election whilst Reform are around and so there will be a merger at some point, because there has to be. Labour won’t get a second term - it’s going to be a long and dismal 5 years of their screwing everything up, but that’s the usual cycle and no surprises there. Have a bit of a beef with some content in your first paragraph, some seem to exhibit blatant experiences relating to freebies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted October 7 Report Share Posted October 7 5 hours ago, Mungler said: And this is why normal people (ie the silent majority) need to get behind Reform. The state of this Country right now. This is what we want from the GMP, this could be the first of many crowd funded prosecutions and will encourage our police officer's that they have the public support behind them if they are not protected by their own bosses. From Auntie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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