clangerman Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 I see the above are emerging no chance of them suffering on winter rape like the rest of us have to absent from drill which gives little success but has to be guarded in the wet yet first sign of sun and out they come swarming like kit laden ants to take advantage of others hard work how is that fair or sportsman like? enlighten me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down South Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 As soon as the combine has finished they will be out. They never do the proper crop protection, keeping the birds moving when crops are standing and soft. Blow everything out of the sky and don’t even clear up when finished. 😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 It was ever thus. Having suffered a bit from it in Lincolnshire I know how it feels. Thankfully down here noone else is allowed on my farms and Estates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 (edited) Yep I never saw one person on the winter rape when i was doing rounds last winter but they beat me to the rape stubble few weeks ago luckily they hadn't much of a clue and I set up on another rape stubble across the lane and had double the shooting they had I seen it year in year out Edited August 12 by yickdaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellors Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 White trainer gang !!!. They are a real pain not on my ground though. Very few round here last few years thankfully. I know south of the county some chap puts 2 or 3 on a stubble field for £100 each and gives the farmer £100 easy money but not right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 Every year this moan comes round again. Come on the Rose Tinted Spectacle Brigade, get real, it will ALWAYS happen, it will NEVER change. Just get out there, do the reconnaissance and shoot when you can. The next moan will be all the poor chaps with jobs who only get to shoot at the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted August 12 Report Share Posted August 12 35 minutes ago, yickdaz said: Yep I never saw one person on the winter rape when i was doing rounds last winter but they beat me to the rape stubble few weeks ago luckily they hadn't much of a clue and I set up on another rape stubble across the lane and had double the shooting they had I seen it year in year out It might be a problem for some but there is certainly more land about than Pigeon shooters , I have got a free hand to a big area and if anyone want to go they have only got to ask and I would go out of my way to find them some shooting as the one or two who do go now and again are always short of time . O s r have got a very short time frame to shoot over the small plants , on ours we don't normally allow a lot of shooting during the game season , but having said that I cannot remember when we last had a problem with Winter Pigeon damage , by the time the game season is finished then there might be a few on the fields that are outside of the shoot although these are the sort of fields with a gas gun going off. Then in February we have four Saturdays roost shooting and if a rape field border there allocated wood then they are welcome to shoot the rape all day if they wish , moving on to March the rape start to push upwards and by the end of the month it is well up with the first Yellow flowers showing , this is then normally it till it is cut , I agree there might be some going on the ripe rape just before cutting but you would only be shooting around the headlands and you would have to leave the birds where they fell as you would be doing more damage than the Pigeons . I would think nowadays with the drillings being a dead loss and not that many people shooting on the growing rape that stubble shooting account for the bulk of the amount of Pigeons now being shot in the UK MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted August 12 Author Report Share Posted August 12 I wouldn’t begrudge them the shooting but most here couldn’t find flight line with a guide dog all the gear and no idea they have made hundreds of birds on peas unshootable with their anti air craft fire at least watching their untrained dogs is entertaining! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B686 Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 (edited) You certainly hear more people out shooting this time of year . I only shoot from when the pigeons get on the rape then stop when the spring drilling is finished. It’s the same with carp fishing though . Trouble is my favourite time to fish is from about mid october through to may so the two clash. Edited August 13 by B686 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchrat Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 Yes, part-time shooters only interested in the cream of the pickings. This winter a "Pigeon Shooting Club" approached the farmer asking if they could roost shoot the best wood on the farm in February -real cherry picking. Fortunately he discussed it with me and I explained that as my pal and I had been out protecting his rape 15 times between us, in all weathers over the winter and had shot nearly 150 birds (average of under 10, only), it would be fair to let us shoot the prime wood. He agreed and let the others go in other woods across the road which are not so good but where they would then keep the birds moving for us. Good result! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilts#Dave Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 44 minutes ago, kitchrat said: Yes, part-time shooters only interested in the cream of the pickings. This winter a "Pigeon Shooting Club" approached the farmer asking if they could roost shoot the best wood on the farm in February -real cherry picking. Fortunately he discussed it with me and I explained that as my pal and I had been out protecting his rape 15 times between us, in all weathers over the winter and had shot nearly 150 birds (average of under 10, only), it would be fair to let us shoot the prime wood. He agreed and let the others go in other woods across the road which are not so good but where they would then keep the birds moving for us. Good result! Clubs / guides are the bane of any proper pigeon shooters life if they happened to encroach on their patch. I agree with neither, but as I don’t own a farm don’t have a say in the matter! Those summer shooters do make me laugh, very few have any idea but can ruin good days for those regular shooters on the farms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 Only the other day they were interviewing a local farmer on Radio Norfolk , he was a fairly big farmer and own around 1000 acres , he was saying he now make more money out of his farm shop , Maize Maze , Farm talks and so on than he make out traditional farming , money is tight on some farms although I have never heard local farmers charging for Pigeon shooting , most farmers don't worry themselves with Pigeons working on the stubbles as to them they are not doing any harm and by allowing shooting on the stubbles it more or less a thank you for keeping an eye on there crops , very often if two people are going at the same time and are spaced out correctly then you can often get more shooting than if you were by yourself , so treat it as an advantage rather a disadvantage . MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 13 Report Share Posted August 13 7 hours ago, kitchrat said: Yes, part-time shooters only interested in the cream of the pickings. This winter a "Pigeon Shooting Club" approached the farmer asking if they could roost shoot the best wood on the farm in February -real cherry picking. Fortunately he discussed it with me and I explained that as my pal and I had been out protecting his rape 15 times between us, in all weathers over the winter and had shot nearly 150 birds (average of under 10, only), it would be fair to let us shoot the prime wood. He agreed and let the others go in other woods across the road which are not so good but where they would then keep the birds moving for us. Good result! hello, Well done that farmer👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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