The impact of mass migration 🤔

[oowee]

9 hours ago, ShootingEgg said:

I might go out on a limb and maybe upset oowee, and say that starmer and Rayner will ruin this country not fix it. 

I beg they prove me wrong. But I can't see it happening 

Why? Because they are Labour? Look at what they have done is just a few weeks. Look at what they started with. 

It's too late to ruin the country but fingers crossed they can stop the rot. A bonus if they can change the direction of decline.

Already good news re law and order, economic stability bill, changes to Lords, planning changes. All good basic work. The start of a quality shaping operation. 

There is no panacea for uk problems. The Tories clearly lost the plot. We all hope that this lot will be a plus. Time will tell but a great start. 

[Weihrauch17]

53 minutes ago, oowee said:

Why? Because they are Labour? Look at what they have done is just a few weeks. Look at what they started with. 

It's too late to ruin the country but fingers crossed they can stop the rot. A bonus if they can change the direction of decline.

Already good news re law and order, economic stability bill, changes to Lords, planning changes. All good basic work. The start of a quality shaping operation. 

There is no panacea for uk problems. The Tories clearly lost the plot. We all hope that this lot will be a plus. Time will tell but a great start. 

Again what ******* Planet do you reside on!

Making free speech a crime,

A £22 Billion ficticous black hole invented by Rachel Thieves.

Absolutely ludicrous public sector pay rises creating said black hole.

Removal of the WFA despite the huge cost of Net Zero electricity and the never ending price rises.

Locking up Twitter users whilst letting out thousands of criminals.

Huge tax rises incoming.

A huge open door to illegal immigration.

Refusal to spend on defence.

Building all over the Greenbelt.

Carpeting valuable Green Belt Land with Windmills and Solar Panels.

Absolutely no desire to Police Muslim demonstrations.

All in all a total and utter disaster in eight weeks.

Just a taste of Labour, they are truly horrendous.

 

  

Edited September 6 by Weihrauch17

[old man]

On 05/09/2024 at 17:01, oowee said:

Vote Brexit reap the rewards. 

For the likes of old thickos like me, please expand on your thought train.

[old man]

On 05/09/2024 at 17:39, countryman said:

Immigration are Labour votes, look at London to see the near 

On 06/09/2024 at 07:07, Zoli 12 guage said:

stop poking him 👍

he lives in his own little "left wing" world where if we were still under the jackboot of Europe we'd be feasting on Ambrosia and we'd all have a personal rainbow with our own pot of gold 😉🙄

it doesn't matter that the rest of Europe is still in "Europe" and,as if by magic they're being invaded too.

it's not the fact that this lot and the last shower of **** don't want to make the decisions that are required to stop the invasion.

AND,the Hermans are now considering sending theirs to Rwanda AND into the very housing that we set up and paid for.

strange that in't it seeing as though it was the Europeans that TOLD US WE COULDN'T.

 

Common sense says we have no need of a silly idea like Rwanda. That's shutting the door after the hoss has gone.

Just stop the free collections, pay outs and make the so called border lot get out of bed?

20 hours ago, 100milesaway said:

I think you have to be some kind of special person to be a leftie after all who in their right mind would want to gloat over the demise and downfall of their once beautiful country. Who in their right mind would support what is happening to our NHS and the massive decline in everything once held precious to us. Scary times ahead.

From Auntie 

Yep Auntie. Very succinct.

[B686]

8 hours ago, Weihrauch17 said:

Again what ******* Planet do you reside on!

Making free speech a crime,

A £22 Billion ficticous black hole invented by Rachel Thieves.

Absolutely ludicrous public sector pay rises creating said black hole.

Removal of the WFA despite the huge cost of Net Zero electricity and the never ending price rises.

Locking up Twitter users whilst letting out thousands of criminals.

Huge tax rises incoming.

A huge open door to illegal immigration.

Refusal to spend on defence.

Building all over the Greenbelt.

Carpeting valuable Green Belt Land with Windmills and Solar Panels.

Absolutely no desire to Police Muslim demonstrations.

All in all a total and utter disaster in eight weeks.

Just a taste of Labour, they are truly horrendous.

 

  

👍👍

[oowee]

8 hours ago, Weihrauch17 said:

Again what ******* Planet do you reside on!

Making free speech a crime,

A £22 Billion ficticous black hole invented by Rachel Thieves.

Absolutely ludicrous public sector pay rises creating said black hole.

Removal of the WFA despite the huge cost of Net Zero electricity and the never ending price rises.

Locking up Twitter users whilst letting out thousands of criminals.

Huge tax rises incoming.

A huge open door to illegal immigration.

Refusal to spend on defence.

Building all over the Greenbelt.

Carpeting valuable Green Belt Land with Windmills and Solar Panels.

Absolutely no desire to Police Muslim demonstrations.

All in all a total and utter disaster in eight weeks.

Just a taste of Labour, they are truly horrendous.

 

  

Oh dear. Labour could tackle all the propaganda videos people are sucking up. 

Edited September 7 by oowee

[old man]

8 hours ago, Weihrauch17 said:

Again what ******* Planet do you reside on!

Making free speech a crime,

A £22 Billion ficticous black hole invented by Rachel Thieves.

Absolutely ludicrous public sector pay rises creating said black hole.

Removal of the WFA despite the huge cost of Net Zero electricity and the never ending price rises.

Locking up Twitter users whilst letting out thousands of criminals.

Huge tax rises incoming.

A huge open door to illegal immigration.

Refusal to spend on defence.

Building all over the Greenbelt.

Carpeting valuable Green Belt Land with Windmills and Solar Panels.

Absolutely no desire to Police Muslim demonstrations.

All in all a total and utter disaster in eight weeks.

Just a taste of Labour, they are truly horrendous.

 

  

 May be a fair summation?

Funnily enough, in a town yesterday lunch there is a central location now favourite of preachers with microphones and amplifiers who two at a time assault the ears of everyone passing within 50 yds with diatribe of sins you can be saved from?

At least it moves the feral pigeons on.🤔🤔

[johnphilip]

22 hours ago, B686 said:

Just seen this video, the government are apparently paying for 5000 hotel beds daily across the country to be kept open for immigrants in case there’s a spike in arrivals. Possibly costing £500,000 a day.

Sorry don’t know how to post videos but I think it would be taken off as there’s a fair bit of Swearing in it. Maybe have a look for yourselfs. Guessing it’s true?

Here is a version  I saw of it , unfortunately  it's. Only on Facebook 

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/Ka3q3JWNHDRkDHq5/

[Mungler]

10 hours ago, oowee said:

Why? Because they are Labour? Look at what they have done is just a few weeks. Look at what they started with. 

It's too late to ruin the country but fingers crossed they can stop the rot. A bonus if they can change the direction of decline.

Already good news re law and order, economic stability bill, changes to Lords, planning changes. All good basic work. The start of a quality shaping operation. 

There is no panacea for uk problems. The Tories clearly lost the plot. We all hope that this lot will be a plus. Time will tell but a great start. 

If you think this is a great start, you have bumped your head.

My predictions :

1. jealous and spiteful taxation which will stifle growth and reduce economic output. With the highest incidence of taxation (following covid) there is yet more to come but Labour are incapable of delivering value for money. The tax take will be spaffed. People will be less inclined to bother or strive - indeed, why bother if the government  will lift the majority of your earnings out of your pocket or pay you to watch telly and pop out more state dependant kids.

2. the plans they have to regulate the rental sector will backfire and there will be a shortage of rental housing and spiralling rents. They cannot build the housing stock they claim to want to build in the time available. Absolute lack of practical insight here. 

3. we will get inflation under Labour as sure as night follows day. They do not do either growth or financial prudence and their plans for public sector pay and minimum wage will backfire. Anyone who knows anything about inflation will tell you it is the root of all evil. Give someone a 6% pay rise but real world inflation runs at 9%, they’re actually 3% worse off. There ought to be interest rate cuts by the end of the year (but these look increasingly minimal / doubtful). My tip, if rates go below 5% then fix for 5 years. 

4. Foreign policy - well, I’ve never met a true lefty who will give a Jew an even break. Labour are increasingly subservient to a well organised and motivated religious minority now.

5. Free speech - it’s gone under the radar but immediately doing away with the planned academic freedom /  free speech act - that’s a massive red flag. 

6. Increased government, increased cost of government and more people dependant on the state - just how they like it. 

If I was more mobile, I’d skip out of the country for 5 years.

 

Edit

Public sector pay / pensions, the NHS and the drain of mass immigration will drag us to a tipping point sooner or later. The only thing to do is try and insulate yourself as best as possible.

When the drain of the state exceeds the tax take, all borrowing is maxed out the ‘haves’ refuse to keep paying for everyone else, well that’s going to get interesting. 

There is argument for creating a virus that will with better certainty iron out everyone over 85 😉 especially when you look at the pensions black hole and how 75% of NHS resources are applied to people in the last 3 years of life. The lefties in Canada are big on assisted suicide - watch this space.

Edited September 7 by Mungler

[Weihrauch17]

23 hours ago, B686 said:

Just seen this video, the government are apparently paying for 5000 hotel beds daily across the country to be kept open for immigrants in case there’s a spike in arrivals. Possibly costing £500,000 a day.

Sorry don’t know how to post videos but I think it would be taken off as there’s a fair bit of Swearing in it. Maybe have a look for yourselfs. Guessing it’s true?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/09/06/sensitive-costs-furnishing-asylum-seeker-flats-watchdog/

[oowee]

The current tax does not equal current spend. Every service is underfunded and broken. 

We need growth. Labour have a plan will it all work out? I doubt it but its one plan more than we had. 

We are making good progress so far. Disappointing that Labour are sticking to the austerity ticket. 

Edited September 7 by oowee

[B686]

1 hour ago, Weihrauch17 said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/09/06/sensitive-costs-furnishing-asylum-seeker-flats-watchdog/

It’s no wonder people are getting really ****** off with this . They really do look after these bloody asylum seekers better than us . Won’t be long before the **** hits the fan again. Why should taxpayers pay for them . I honestly don’t know anyone who isn’t getting ****ed off with it. 

[Weihrauch17]

55 minutes ago, B686 said:

It’s no wonder people are getting really ****** off with this . They really do look after these bloody asylum seekers better than us . Won’t be long before the **** hits the fan again. Why should taxpayers pay for them . I honestly don’t know anyone who isn’t getting ****** off with it. 

Me neither.  They deliberately rub our noses in it and threaten 10 years jail time if you protest.

[Rewulf]

13 hours ago, oowee said:

Look at what they have done is just a few weeks.

Go on then what have they actually DONE ?
Theyve done nothing, except talk about what they are going to do, which is not what they said they were going to do pre election !
Pre election it was, 'These plans are all fully costed'
Now its 'Oh dear, we didnt realise theres no money to do it' so austerity here we come.

The party of law and order ? Thats just too ridiculous to even comment on.

2 hours ago, oowee said:

Every service is underfunded and broken. 

And its going to stay that way or get worse 'Its going to get a lot worse before it gets better' Starmers own words. Great start 

The tories took on the same situation back in 2010, labour left the country in a mess, is it more of a mess now ?
Maybe it is, but its not going to get better under this government, because they are utterly clueless how to fix it.

[Yellow Bear]

2 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

so austerity here we come.

Unless you belong to a big union or are a public (alleged) servant.

[12gauge82]

I thought this was an interesting investigation and confirms a lot of what we already know. 

https://youtu.be/WWqmOdeCD_g?si=w2tqpa3tMZQYH9op

[Remimax]

On 05/09/2024 at 17:01, oowee said:

Vote Brexit reap the rewards. 

bit of a cheap shot considering its in name only.

[oowee]

4 minutes ago, Remimax said:

bit of a cheap shot considering its in name only.

Freedom of movement ? 🤣Was done, dusted. 

Don't forget that Brits forced to return to the UK after migrating to Spain (etc)  are also counted in the net migration figures. 

Edited September 9 by oowee

[Vince Green]

On 07/09/2024 at 11:13, oowee said:

. Every service is underfunded and broken. 

Not underfunded, Overspent

There is a difference and that difference is the core of the problem we have.

Edited September 9 by Vince Green

[Remimax]

6 minutes ago, oowee said:

Freedom of movement ? 🤣Was done, dusted. 

Don't forget that Brits forced to return to the UK after migrating to Spain (etc)  are also counted in the net migration figures. 

there's no problem with freedom of movement  as long as it involves a rubber dingy ,seem to recall "old" labour use to deport at least 40 thousand freeloaders a year ,you like to explain why that isn't happening or going to happen now they are back in the driving seat.

[Vince Green]

Just now, oowee said:

Freedom of movement ? 🤣Was done, dusted. 

Don't forget that Brits forced to return to the UK after migrating to Spain (etc)  are also counted in the net migration figures. 

Freedom of movement was ********.

How many Britons wanted to move to Lithuania and get a job?

Compared to how many Lithuanians wanted to move to Britain ?

Hardly a level playing field was it?

No Brits were forced  to move back to Britain after Brexit.  They could apply for residents status and several of my friends did. 

Edited September 9 by Vince Green

[oowee]

1 minute ago, Vince Green said:

Freedom of movement was ********.

How many Britons wanted to move to Lithuania and get a job?

Compared to how many Lithuanians wanted to move to Britain ?

No Brits were forced to move back to Britain after Brexit.  They could apply for residents status and several of my friends did. 

Thousands upon thousands of Brits moved abroad and sometimes back again using freedom of Movement. No idea on Lithuania where do you have the data?

Brits were not forced to move back but without healthcare (expired 2021) many thousands did and many more will. All added to the immigrant numbers. 

[Vince Green]

Just now, oowee said:

Thousands upon thousands of Brits moved abroad and sometimes back again using freedom of Movement. No idea on Lithuania where do you have the data?

Brits were not forced to move back but without healthcare (expired 2021) many thousands did and many more will. All added to the immigrant numbers. 

Ah so now you are moving the goalposts. They weren't forced to move back they chose to. There has never been free health care in Spain. My friends have always had to have private medical insurance in Spain. And so would you and I when we went on holiday. Brexit did not change anything there. That's just another spurious remainer red herring.

[Rewulf]

8 minutes ago, oowee said:

Thousands upon thousands of Brits moved abroad and sometimes back again using freedom of Movement.

Err, doesnt really explain NET migration of nearly 700,000 a year does it, or the strain that puts on housing and services ?
Is Starmer going to make it better, as in , less net migration ? NOPE.

 

[oowee]

No it never explained nett migration neither did anything that fell out Farage's mouth. 

It would be interesting to know what number of Brits have returned and been counted and what number are likely to return. The numbers will be huge.