arjimlad Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 BBC News - Firearms permit revoked, man to pay police £22k https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czj9dr7dzezo Wonder what prompted the appeal? Anyone not keeping firearms both unloaded and under lock and key can't expect a successful appeal against a revocation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 Well I think he has just thrown £22k out of the window, he was guilty of not complying with the terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P08 Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 Yes no way you could appeal for what he did, clearly someone has been giving him bad advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 Rather worrying that one of the two unsecured weapons was apparently loaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 As a community we should applaud the Police for "detecting" this crime, and I can only imagine it was by a tip off. This kind of shooter (shotgun or rifle) should be held to account for this behaviour, to prevent further restrictions in the future. I think this is a good step to help the sporting community, and gives faith that the system is trying to remove guns from those who cannot demonstrably show responsibility, without penalising the remainder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 14 minutes ago, HantsRob said: As a community we should applaud the Police for "detecting" this crime, and I can only imagine it was by a tip off. This kind of shooter (shotgun or rifle) should be held to account for this behaviour, to prevent further restrictions in the future. I think this is a good step to help the sporting community, and gives faith that the system is trying to remove guns from those who cannot demonstrably show responsibility, without penalising the remainder. Yes indeed, whoever blew the whistle is to be commended too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 (edited) The FAC holder sounds like he richly deserved losing his ticket - and to risk £22K challenging it makes him a right plonker in my opinion. That he appealed reinforces he didn't have the right mentality to gain it originally anyway: which might lead to closer consideration of his referees or medical suitability. I anticipate we'll hear more about this. Edited September 24 by Dave-G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 2 hours ago, HantsRob said: As a community we should applaud the Police for "detecting" this crime, and I can only imagine it was by a tip off. This kind of shooter (shotgun or rifle) should be held to account for this behaviour, to prevent further restrictions in the future. I think this is a good step to help the sporting community, and gives faith that the system is trying to remove guns from those who cannot demonstrably show responsibility, without penalising the remainder. Agree with this wholeheartedly. Terrible infringement - to have a gun lying around loaded. Good police work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 2 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Yes indeed, whoever blew the whistle is to be commended too. Reporting a friend is far harder than reporting a stranger. Agreed, moreso if it was a partner. 4 minutes ago, Fellside said: Agree with this wholeheartedly. Terrible infringement - to have a gun lying around loaded. Good police work. I believe he was appealing the revocation of licence rather than his actions. But that begs the question as to WHY he did this. Was it laziness? Was it "protection"?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 (edited) 12 minutes ago, HantsRob said: Reporting a friend is far harder than reporting a stranger. Agreed, moreso if it was a partner. I believe he was appealing the revocation of licence rather than his actions. But that begs the question as to WHY he did this. Was it laziness? Was it "protection"?! Yes, but I am glad whoever it was, did it. Apparently he admitted the wrong doing, makes you wonder what he felt he might achieve? I strongly suspect it was laziness and he felt he had done no wrong in his own house. Edited September 24 by TIGHTCHOKE Syntax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 4 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: I strongly suspect it was laziness and he felt he had done no wrong in his own house. Probably the same reason that (anecdotally) some farmers leave their keys on top of the cabinet! I could understand unlocked cab to a degree, just not loaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 2 minutes ago, HantsRob said: Probably the same reason that (anecdotally) some farmers leave their keys on top of the cabinet! I could understand unlocked cab to a degree, just not loaded. Some years ago Leicestershire were very reluctant to allow people to put their cabinets in the loft. The feeling at the time, (that I can understand) was then many would leave the gun by the front door if they were going out again the following day. The simple fact that Weapon Security is the RESPONSIBILITY of the Holder seems to be forgotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 30 minutes ago, Fellside said: Good police work. Somebody has to say it: Its a pity that the police can't be as equally expeditious when it comes to firearms licensing times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 In fairness to the Police, I know which area of work which should take precedence and it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 Our U.K. laws are not applicable to what I am about to relate at all, but I met a chap in Arizona who couldn’t wait to show me, a total stranger, his new rifle. He handed it to me from out of his wardrobe, loaded. One up the spout. Different World. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 58 minutes ago, Gordon R said: In fairness to the Police, I know which area of work which should take precedence and it did. That puts Starmer in a good light as he only has two tiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 3 hours ago, wymberley said: Somebody has to say it: Its a pity that the police can't be as equally expeditious when it comes to firearms licensing times. To be fair, I needed a licence swap as mine was full. Every email was replied to within 90 minutes (within business hours), and I was able to pick up a replacement in around 4 days. Thankyou Hampshire and IOW constabulary. ❤️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 Quote That puts Starmer in a good light as he only has two tiers. Sorry - don't understand the relevance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 24 Report Share Posted September 24 2 hours ago, London Best said: Our U.K. laws are not applicable to what I am about to relate at all, but I met a chap in Arizona who couldn’t wait to show me, a total stranger, his new rifle. He handed it to me from out of his wardrobe, loaded. One up the spout. Different World. Yes very different, many years ago an American Serviceman allowed my son and I in to his large helicopter. Michael knew it was a beretta 92 on his hip and asked him about it. Quick as a flash he unclipped it and passed it to Miike while we chatted. 5 minutes later he asked for the gun back and then unloaded it and gave it back to my son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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