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So should we all be terrified or just careful with our batteries ?

Laptops, torches to name a few. They'll be banned under health and safety before long.

If a lithium battery is just sat on a surface, is it a danger, or is it only if shorted out. What causes it to explode ?

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Yes London.

From the BBC News website;

"Two north London refuse workers had a narrow escape when a combustible item left in a wheelie bin exploded in their lorry.

Barnet Council said the explosion was caused by an item such as a gas canister, a battery or aerosol being wrongly placed into a residential bin which, when crushed by the lorry’s impactor, caused the bin and other debris to be fired out into the street.

Councillor Alan Schneiderman said: “I hope this helps people to understand how important it is to properly recycle items such as gas canisters and bottles, batteries and aerosols, as on another day we might not have been so lucky.”

The council added it believed the two workers involved were uninjured."

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1 hour ago, 30-6 said:

So should we all be terrified or just careful with our batteries ?

Laptops, torches to name a few. They'll be banned under health and safety before long.

If a lithium battery is just sat on a surface, is it a danger, or is it only if shorted out. What causes it to explode ?

Li po's are in everything from phones etc.

Most problems apart from abuse come from charging without the proper charger? Severe fire not explosion is the bigger risk?

Unless someone knows better? 🤔🤔

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Nowt to worry about. Use as intended and dispose of sensibly. Some idiot forgot the last bit. As long as you're not using your lithium battery-device in the back of a bin lorry, Or repeatedly slamming it with a sledgehammer, they're fine.

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Back in 83 i was working in a boatyard down Leigh Old town, one morning me & the chippy were having a burn up in a 45 gallon drum brazier, loads of woodshavings etc.

The boss comes out of the shop with a few cardboard boxes & chucks them into the brazier. I was in the workshop doing a bit of welding & there is an almighty bang that shook the whole building. We run outside to see a sea of burning debris right across the road. The barrel was burst wide open flat with the base resembling a large wok.

It turned out the boss had inadvertently thrown a full aerosol can of easy start into the fire in his boxes...

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Over the last few years we have had a problem with 'fly tipping' on a local very minor road which often contains the large size nitrous oxide cylinders.  I (because I am often first to see fresh material as I walk the dog that way early) report this to the local 'fly tipping' section of the council's website.  It was suggested locally that 'someone' (by whom he clearly meant me) should not involve the council, but collect the rubbish and put in in their appropriate waste/recycling bin. 

This is absolutely forbidden by the council because the 'material' often contains the nitrous oxide cylinders (not the little finger sized ones but large and heavy - weighting around 5 lbs each empty).  They need special collection because there is apparently a risk that if put in a normal dust cart with a compactor the (small brass) outlet could get broken off resulting in violent 'explosive' release of any remaining gas - with risk to the council staff operating the lorry.

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12 hours ago, Keith 66 said:

Back in 83 i was working in a boatyard down Leigh Old town, one morning me & the chippy were having a burn up in a 45 gallon drum brazier, loads of woodshavings etc.

The boss comes out of the shop with a few cardboard boxes & chucks them into the brazier. I was in the workshop doing a bit of welding & there is an almighty bang that shook the whole building. We run outside to see a sea of burning debris right across the road. The barrel was burst wide open flat with the base resembling a large wok.

It turned out the boss had inadvertently thrown a full aerosol can of easy start into the fire in his boxes...

I threw a can of expanding foam on a drum incinerator at home a ew years back. I  had a small demonstration on the nasty impact napalm had. I was very lucky to have my back to the drum and a coat on. 

 

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