US election

[Rewulf]

On 06/11/2024 at 06:52, NoBodyImportant said:

then we need to go back and audit the last election results.

Absolutely.
Trump has actually attained less overall votes this time, than in 2020.
The dems seem to have 'lost' the 15 million extra votes that put Biden in the WH in 2020 ?

Considering how hotly contested this election has been, and how desperate the left were to keep him out, lock him up ect, you would think dem voters would have got up out their graves and voted again for Kamala ?

Given the result, there are many questioning the legitimacy of 2020s vote.
The numbers dont really add up.

[serrac]

5 hours ago, Rewulf said:

Absolutely.
Trump has actually attained less overall votes this time, than in 2020.
The dems seem to have 'lost' the 15 million extra votes that put Biden in the WH in 2020 ?

Considering how hotly contested this election has been, and how desperate the left were to keep him out, lock him up ect, you would think dem voters would have got up out their graves and voted again for Kamala ?

Given the result, there are many questioning the legitimacy of 2020s vote.
The numbers dont really add up.

Indeed...

[Mungler]

The swing in Georgia is a giveaway.

 

[oowee]

That looks a bit odd to say the least. That said the figures for 24 are not complete 69m and 73m so far with two states to call. 

[Rewulf]

1 hour ago, oowee said:

That looks a bit odd to say the least. That said the figures for 24 are not complete 69m and 73m so far with two states to call. 

Both low population density states , there's only a 200k or less votes uncounted.

Like I say , the numbers don't add up.

[amateur]

1 hour ago, oowee said:

That looks a bit odd to say the least. That said the figures for 24 are not complete 69m and 73m so far with two states to call. 

That may affect the overall percentage of vote, but not the number of winning seats, so the lefties have already lost.

[Rewulf]

[oowee]

1 hour ago, amateur said:

That may affect the overall percentage of vote, but not the number of winning seats, so the lefties have already lost.

? Its the apparently missing voters we are talking about. 

1 hour ago, Rewulf said:

Both low population density states , there's only a 200k or less votes uncounted.

Like I say , the numbers don't add up.

By a wide margin. I don't do conspiracy theories but I can't see mention of it in the post election analysis (this side of the pond). 

[Yellow Bear]

41 minutes ago, oowee said:

I don't do conspiracy theories but I can't see mention of it in the post election analysis (this side of the pond).

With the MSM the way they are   ............. "quelle surprise"

[Rewulf]

1 hour ago, oowee said:

By a wide margin. I don't do conspiracy theories but I can't see mention of it in the post election analysis (this side of the pond

It's gathering momentum, without the data of this election to compare it to, you could have just called it a big turnout (the biggest by % in 100 years)

But the drop in turnout is looking increasing suspicious. 

[islandgun]

Could Vlad have anything to do with it ?

[Rewulf]

3 minutes ago, islandgun said:

Could Vlad have anything to do with it ?

Why would he help the dems ?
We cant just blame Russia for everything, every time, US 2016, Brexit, ect,  someone on the left seems to want to inject 'Russian interference' into the mix

My opinion is that the apparent quietness in the dem camp, post election can be interpreted in one of two ways.
They are utterly stunned by their defeat, despite polling putting Trump ahead.
Or, they are pretty worried by the implications of the stats ?

I believe there will be an investigation into the 2020 election, and if its found there was any sort of vote rigging... Well, the people are going to be somewhat annoyed to say the least, and thats ALL the people, not just Trump supporters.

[islandgun]

52 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

Why would he help the dems ?
We cant just blame Russia for everything, every time, US 2016, Brexit, ect,  someone on the left seems to want to inject 'Russian interference' into the mix

My opinion is that the apparent quietness in the dem camp, post election can be interpreted in one of two ways.
They are utterly stunned by their defeat, despite polling putting Trump ahead.
Or, they are pretty worried by the implications of the stats ?

I believe there will be an investigation into the 2020 election, and if its found there was any sort of vote rigging... Well, the people are going to be somewhat annoyed to say the least, and thats ALL the people, not just Trump supporters.

I suspect "help" isn't high on his agenda, whereas mischief sometimes is😉

[serrac]

1 hour ago, Rewulf said:

Or, they are pretty worried by the implications of the stats ?

I believe there will be an investigation into the 2020 election, and if its found there was any sort of vote rigging... Well, the people are going to be somewhat annoyed to say the least, and thats ALL the people, not just Trump supporters.

There's also the small matter of all the lawfare that's been directed at Trump and his associates.

Many of the legal arguments which have been used entrap them could be used with equal effect against the other side (and should be where appropriate).

If Trump can be convicted of a felony for "election interference" for an accounting irregularity regarding a payment to Stormy Daniels, then Hillary Clinton must be at risk for paying for the fake Russian collusion dossier and reporting the expense as "legal costs".

[12gauge82]

The issue of lawfare is a serious one.

It happend here with Brexit and is essentially an avenue for the super rich to get what they want which of course is not available to the average person. It is effectively a two tier legal system. 

[Rewulf]

27 minutes ago, serrac said:

Many of the legal arguments which have been used entrap them could be used with equal effect against the other side (and should be where appropriate).

If Trump can be convicted of a felony for "election interference" for an accounting irregularity regarding a payment to Stormy Daniels, then Hillary Clinton must be at risk for paying for the fake Russian collusion dossier and reporting the expense as "legal costs".

You would think so.
Such is the fear the dems have a Trump, that they would stoop to the depths that they have, they have tried very hard to justify this behaviour usingt he adage that orange man is so bad that hes a threat to America, its people, and the world in general.
This kind of lefty delusionary thought needs to stop, its incredibly damaging to the people theyre meant to serve.

[Rewulf]

Well, the Californians certainly voted, the most populous, and woke State in the US.
But not quite how the dems thought they would.

[oowee]

Strangely enough the Heritage Foundation project 2025 that Trump had nothing to do with looks to be back on.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/08/trump-administration-project-2025

“Now that the election is over I think we can finally say that yeah actually Project 2025 is the agenda,” said Matt Walsh, a popular podcaster, commentator and author, on X, adding: “Lol”.

[enfieldspares]

On 06/11/2024 at 07:13, ditchman said:

It is a crying shame that Alistaire Cook is not alive to do a "letter from America" on this all

The draft dodger one? Enoch Powell, like him or loathe him, came back, from Australia, joined the Army as a private soldier and took part in the war. Cooke stayed safely in America. Later he'd write nonsense criticising the Montgomery bus boycott for causing the bus company to lose money. His radio talks were interesting but as a person he had these two deep and unforgiveable failings.

[ditchman]

16 minutes ago, enfieldspares said:

The draft dodger one? Enoch Powell, like him or loathe him, came back, from Australia, joined the Army as a private soldier and took part in the war. Cooke stayed safely in America. Later he'd write nonsense criticising the Montgomery bus boycott for causing the bus company to lose money. His radio talks were interesting but as a person he had these two deep and unforgiveable failings.

well..............i didnt know that ...im astonished and dismayed...well i never...

[Rewulf]

1 hour ago, oowee said:

Strangely enough the Heritage Foundation project 2025 that Trump had nothing to do with looks to be back on.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/08/trump-administration-project-2025

“Now that the election is over I think we can finally say that yeah actually Project 2025 is the agenda,” said Matt Walsh, a popular podcaster, commentator and author, on X, adding: “Lol”.

You do know he was joking don't you ?

He knew the lefties would be clutching their pearls if he mentioned the dreaded project 25 😂

[oowee]

16 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

You do know he was joking don't you ?

He knew the lefties would be clutching their pearls if he mentioned the dreaded project 25 😂

I do hope they were all joking. 😁

Mike Davis was kicking off the program with the plan to expel anchor babies with migrants. I hope he was joking too. Somehow i doubt it.

 

[Mungler]

35 minutes ago, oowee said:

I do hope they were all joking. 😁

Mike Davis was kicking off the program with the plan to expel anchor babies with migrants. I hope he was joking too. Somehow i doubt it.

 

And why not? Go to the states pregnant and as an illegal, I’m not sure how giving birth legitimises anything, hence the term anchor babies. Send the first 100 back and the rest wont bother.

There is a bare economic reality which people who have never worked in a commercial environment (ie the real world) or who hold pure leftist ideology and which they either ignore or are just ignorant to, and that is ‘everything has to be paid for’ and ‘all resource is finite’. As such it’s not possible to give, for example, unlimited free NHS, free schooling, free housing etc to anyone anywhere in the world (no matter how undesirable), should they howsoever happen to land on your shores.

Moreover indigenous tax payers may not unreasonably expect their government to put the interests of those tax payers first and in front of 3rd parties.

The pendulum is swinging back to normality, let’s hope we’re all not bankrupt or overwhelmed by undesirables before it’s too late. Trump will show the rest of the world the way forward 😆

Edited November 8 by Mungler

[oowee]

6 minutes ago, Mungler said:

And why not? Go to the states pregnant and as an illegal, I’m not sure how giving birth legitimises anything, hence the term anchor babies. Send the first 100 back and the rest wont bother.

There is a bare economic reality which people who have never worked in a commercial environment (ie the real world) or who hold pure leftist ideology and which they either ignore or are just ignorant to, and that is ‘everything has to be paid for’ and ‘all resource is finite’. As such it’s not possible to give, for example, unlimited free NHS, free schooling, free housing etc to anyone anywhere in the world (no matter how undesirable), should they howsoever happen to land on your shores.

Moreover indigenous tax payers may not unreasonably expect their government to put the interests of those tax payers first and in front of 3rd parties.

The pendulum is swinging back to normality, let’s hope we’re all not bankrupt or overwhelmed by undesirables before it’s too late. Trump will show the rest of the world the way forward 😆

I guess it goes with locking up the opposition. Time will tell. 

[Mungler]

3 minutes ago, oowee said:

I guess it goes with locking up the opposition. Time will tell. 

1. Random

2. The democrats invented lawfare and they will be reaping what they sowed.