Most popular names 2024 - should we be worried?

[Red696]

They have released the most popular names for babies in 2024 and Muhammed is no1 for boys.

This worries me.

[countryman]

We should of been worried years ago, our Country is not ours anymore, London was lost a long time ago.

[Houseplant]

From the BBC.

Other spellings of the name Mohammed and Mohammad also made the top 100 list for England and Wales. The ONS considers each spelling as a separate name, with different variations of Muhammad proving popular in previous years.

No comment on changing demographics in the UK. 

[Mungler]

Demographics is destiny.

Anyone vote for mass immigration and putting so much of the rest of the world in front of everyone else?

Blair opened the flood gates in the late 90’s, those floodgates have never been shut and anyone who said anything in dissent was labelled a racist. And here we are now. 

Will any politician be held to account? Of course not; that’s public servants, the public sector and the civil service for you.

Interesting to see that Farage’s views and opinions have never changed and those views once pilloried are now becoming accepted and mainstream. The reality of the cost (economic and social) of 1,000,000 net immigration is finally dawning. 
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Edited December 6 by Mungler

[oowee]

Reflects a lack of imagination. 

[Mungler]

3 minutes ago, oowee said:

Reflects a lack of imagination. 

Or overwhelming numbers and blind adherence to religious direction and instruction.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

 

15 minutes ago, oowee said:

Reflects a lack of imagination. 

Well, I IMAGINE we are in the minority, OPEN HOUSE to ALL and SUNDRY, how long till the country sinks under the weight?

[Yellow Bear]

17 minutes ago, Mungler said:

Of course not; that’s public servants, the public sector and the civil service for you.

Even the good old biased broadcasting company seem to have seen the light of the problems  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyv2g2pe5ro   

Of course lieboor blame the Tories but it was Blair that sped up and anchored the rot.

[Scully]

10 hours ago, oowee said:

Reflects a lack of imagination. 

I would say it reflects a reluctance to move on from the Middle Ages. 🤷‍♂️

[oowee]

1 hour ago, Scully said:

I would say it reflects a reluctance to move on from the Middle Ages. 🤷‍♂️

Yep that as well. 

[B686]

Reflects how overrun this country already is . Certainly isn’t going to get any better while Osama bin Starmer is in charge the ****.

[welsh1]

So approx 600,000 kids born in the uk this year, approx 4500 have been called mohammed.

0.75% called mohammed
Oh no we are being over run🤣

[oowee]

15 minutes ago, welsh1 said:

So approx 600,000 kids born in the uk this year, approx 4500 have been called mohammed.

0.75% called mohammed
Oh no we are being over run🤣

🤣 Some are being chased by their own shadow.

[Houseplant]

13 hours ago, oowee said:

Reflects a lack of imagination. 

34 minutes ago, welsh1 said:

So approx 600,000 kids born in the uk this year, approx 4500 have been called mohammed.

0.75% called mohammed
Oh no we are being over run🤣

 

Lies, damned lies, and statistics. What it does show is a complete lack of imagination in the Muslim community in choosing baby names. I used to travel to Egypt a lot and always "guessed" the person I just met was called Mohammed. I was never wrong. The Mohammeds thought it was amazing! 

[oowee]

28 minutes ago, Houseplant said:

 

Lies, damned lies, and statistics. What it does show is a complete lack of imagination in the Muslim community in choosing baby names. I used to travel to Egypt a lot and always "guessed" the person I just met was called Mohammed. I was never wrong. The Mohammeds thought it was amazing! 

Imagine being a teacher in a mixed community school it would help with remembering the names. 🙂 Every time I have been diving in Egypt it has been with Mohammed. I think they used it as the real name was probably too hard to pronounce or remember. 

[B686]

1 hour ago, welsh1 said:

So approx 600,000 kids born in the uk this year, approx 4500 have been called mohammed.

0.75% called mohammed
Oh no we are being over run🤣

🤣we will be

[Mungler]

1 hour ago, welsh1 said:

So approx 600,000 kids born in the uk this year, approx 4500 have been called mohammed.

0.75% called mohammed
Oh no we are being over run🤣

 

So, round numbers.

600,000 kids. Now remove girls. So that’s 300,000 boys.

5,000 boys called Muhammad (No. 1).

But add in Mohammed and Mohammad (both on the list in their own right).

Which gets us to 8,000 out of 300,000.

 

[welsh1]

47 minutes ago, Mungler said:

 

So, round numbers.

600,000 kids. Now remove girls. So that’s 300,000 boys.

5,000 boys called Muhammad (No. 1).

But add in Mohammed and Mohammad (both on the list in their own right).

Which gets us to 8,000 out of 300,000.

 

So 2.67% of males born were Muhammad or variations of the name, still not exactly a big number.

The Muslim population of England and Wales is approx 6.7%.

If we start a campaign to name all white children Cuthbert then next year they could be the top male name.

[Houseplant]

Could be worse. If you Google worst baby names, you will see plenty of examples. I must be more of a snob than a xenophobe 😂 

 

[Mungler]

4 hours ago, welsh1 said:

So 2.67% of males born were Muhammad or variations of the name, still not exactly a big number.

The Muslim population of England and Wales is approx 6.7%.

If we start a campaign to name all white children Cuthbert then next year they could be the top male name.

Ah ha, but of that 6.7%, what percentage are male / female?

And of that female (birthing) subset, what percentage of those women are child bearing age and able to give birth to a boy? According to the ONS it’s less than 1%.

When you drill down, it’s all significantly disproportionate; less than 1% of the population responsible for nearly 3% of all male babies and which happen to be called Mohammed. 

And of course we’re only looking at births to males called Mohammad and aren’t including females or differently named males.

Blimey, I’ve just googled it. The only data showing was from a 2014 census and puts Muslim birth rate at 10% of the national birth rate (and do we think that figure has gone up or down since 2014?). And how many people avoid / refuse to participate in a census?

So that’s 1% of the population responsible for 10% of all births, albeit we are straddling data set years.

Yoiks. As I said, demographics is destiny.

https://amp.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/jan/10/rise-british-muslim-birthrate-the-times-census 

 

[scolopax]

We need some immigrants, probably lots of immigrants. But they should have been given a guest worker status of a fixed term, after that see ya. No passport, no right to stay indefinitely. 

[Jaymo]

11 hours ago, welsh1 said:

So approx 600,000 kids born in the uk this year, approx 4500 have been called mohammed.

0.75% called mohammed
Oh no we are being over run🤣

Now now. Don’t start being the voice of reason. 
But of course things are skewed when the name choice in a certain segment is traditionally set and limited, compared to other segments of society. 

[Mungler]

36 minutes ago, Jaymo said:

Now now. Don’t start being the voice of reason. 
But of course things are skewed when the name choice in a certain segment is traditionally set and limited, compared to other segments of society. 

But the reason is in the stats and some of which are not released to us. Indeed, arrest and conviction rates for immigrants / asylum seekers / what you will, are known and recorded but deliberately not released. It’s worthy of note that it’s only the Reform party who are pressing for a release of this information, whilst all the other parties are asleep at the wheel deliberately or otherwise, and noting that the conservatives have the last decade+  to answer for.

In the roundest of round, the stats indicate a ‘minority’ 1% of our population is responsible for 10% of all births.

I wonder what those figures were 20 or 30 years ago.

I wonder what those figures will look like in 10 years time.

[Scully]

I genuinely don’t mind those who move here and intend to work and integrate into society.

I don’t expect them to abandon their beliefs and the nicer things regarding their traditional ways of life, but equally I don’t expect them to isolate themselves within their own communities and fester in prehistoric prejudice. 
Those blokes who tended OH’s Dad until his death two weeks ago were brilliant ( bad time keepers and the worst drivers you’ve ever seen! 😄) but we couldn’t have asked for better care. 
I’ve said from day one; if they’re here legally, and to work and mix in then I have no problems. 

[Mungler]

2 hours ago, Scully said:

I genuinely don’t mind those who move here and intend to work and integrate into society.

I don’t expect them to abandon their beliefs and the nicer things regarding their traditional ways of life, but equally I don’t expect them to isolate themselves within their own communities and fester in prehistoric prejudice. 
Those blokes who tended OH’s Dad until his death two weeks ago were brilliant ( bad time keepers and the worst drivers you’ve ever seen! 😄) but we couldn’t have asked for better care. 
I’ve said from day one; if they’re here legally, and to work and mix in then I have no problems. 

Agreed and integration into a high trust liberal democracy is the key.

Who wouldn’t go back in time and undo the likes of Bradford and the ghettos of London?

Like so much of Europe (look at Sweden in particular) we have sleep walked into a now irretrievable position and we remain too coy and too polite to voice any dissent or raise any questions for fear of demonisation.

My view is purely economic - it makes no sense to import the unproductive or anyone who presents as a drain or not a net contributor. Indeed, my hurdle is as low as ‘leave any stone-age tendencies at the door, join in, be a net contributor and don’t break the law’. That’s it really. 

The tide is turning. Starmer is now repeating almost word for word what Farage said twenty plus years ago, but of course it’s twenty plus years too late.