dainty duck Posted Monday at 19:07 Report Share Posted Monday at 19:07 weed killer and sugar mixed back in the day , one of the lads blew a finger and thumb off ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted Monday at 19:22 Report Share Posted Monday at 19:22 14 minutes ago, dainty duck said: weed killer and sugar mixed back in the day , one of the lads blew a finger and thumb off ! 29 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: My late Father used a similar recipe prior to the 2nd World War. He went to several different chemists with his pocket money for the ingredients. Packed it all in to a tin and blew the coal hole up. Much to the annoyance of his parents. I used to make the weedkiller mix to blow up sundry things in my early teens, but nitrocellulose (guncotton) needed quite a different level of ingredient and skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted Monday at 19:25 Report Share Posted Monday at 19:25 My favourite was A.N.F.O. like the Provisional Irish Republican Army favoured. Ammonium Nitrate and Fuel Oil. Basically, weedkiller soaked in diesel and drained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted Monday at 19:29 Report Share Posted Monday at 19:29 2 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: My favourite was A.N.F.O. like the Provisional Irish Republican Army favoured. Ammonium Nitrate and Fuel Oil. Basically, weedkiller soaked in diesel and drained. Surely you mean fertiliser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted Monday at 19:31 Report Share Posted Monday at 19:31 1 minute ago, amateur said: Surely you mean fertiliser Yes, of course I do, don't do much gardening these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minky Posted Monday at 19:36 Author Report Share Posted Monday at 19:36 I think that it's all about politics and justification. On one hand its about doing as little as possible.. thus on one hand only issuing crime report numbers and not even bothering to come out and not bothering to investigate vandalism or hooligan gangs. BUT to send out loads of police and vehicles to an event like this. A similar event happened a few years ago near to where I live. A bloke has a small swimming pool in his back garden and puts a spoonful of chlorine chemicals in every week to kill off stuff in the water. The chemical is in a plastic bucket out in his shed. This chemical started to fume so he called the fire brigade. I was just about to go out shooting and I heard two tones approaching fast. It was a fire engine and it came into our cul de sac. This was quickly followed by a second one and then by a car. I couldn't see what they were there for no smoke no flames nothing. The neighbour had been down to find out what was going on. I had a chat to him and Seeing as there was no imminent disaster I decided to get away. By this time everything was arriving. Numerous fire engines, and police cars and a few ambulances. The whole cul de sac was rapidly becoming an emergency vehicle car park. I was away.! Before they sealed the area off. On the road i passed numerous more polce cars, more fire engines, emergency incident lorry caravans. I was away shooting for a couple of hours and as I was coming home I could see a sort of pulsing electric blue haze illuminating the clouds. This was from about a mile away.! I thought "oh no". I pulled up and phoned the Mrs to find out the score. She said that it had been all about nothing and most of them had or were leaving. Sure enough emergency vehicles started to come by in convoy. When I got home the last crew of firemen loaded down with breathing apparatus were just leaving. The Mrs said that there had been about 25 vehicles there and A LOT of emergency people of different types all aimlessly milling about. A few days later I spoke to the bloke who called them out. He said that it was all over the top and the first fire engine team had sorted out the problem in a few minutes but it had sort of been used as an excuse to use it as an exercise for a major chemical incident. It's justification for funding, if you've got it, you have to use it or loose it, they even had a helicopter out. Goodness knows how much that lot cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dainty duck Posted Monday at 19:42 Report Share Posted Monday at 19:42 (edited) 28 minutes ago, amateur said: Surely you mean fertiliser No sodium chlorate , it was readerly available from iron mongers , there was an incident where some one sprayed there garden with it and when it dried it caught fire and a baby in a pram was burnt to death ! Edited Monday at 19:58 by dainty duck Thick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted Monday at 19:44 Report Share Posted Monday at 19:44 1 minute ago, dainty duck said: No sodium chloride , it was readerly available from iron mongers , there was an incident where some one sprayed there garden with it and when it dried it caught fire and a baby in a pram was burnt to death ! Isn't that just plain old salt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted Monday at 19:54 Report Share Posted Monday at 19:54 7 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Isn't that just plain old salt? Yep - table salt. What was used was chlorate which is no longer easily available for obvious reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dainty duck Posted Monday at 19:56 Report Share Posted Monday at 19:56 9 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Isn't that just plain old salt? Yes your right it was sodium chlorate , the old grey matter a bit mixed these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted Monday at 20:08 Report Share Posted Monday at 20:08 18 minutes ago, dainty duck said: No sodium chlorate , it was readerly available from iron mongers , there was an incident where some one sprayed there garden with it and when it dried it caught fire and a baby in a pram was burnt to death ! The comment I made was addressed to TIGHTCHOKE, who, clearly suffering from brainfade, had described Ammonium Nitrate as weedkiller. Yes, the days of nipping along to the hardware shop, buying a tin of chlorate and blowing things up, are but a distant memory. H&S gone overboard, I tell ee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted Monday at 20:09 Report Share Posted Monday at 20:09 Some of us are getting mixed up quite a bit this evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dainty duck Posted Monday at 20:12 Report Share Posted Monday at 20:12 Yes TC and I aint had a sherry yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted Monday at 20:17 Report Share Posted Monday at 20:17 3 minutes ago, dainty duck said: Yes TC and I aint had a sherry yet Now that's not a bad idea, I might get the port out with some cheese and biscuits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted Monday at 20:19 Report Share Posted Monday at 20:19 1 minute ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Now that's not a bad idea, I might get the port out with some cheese and biscuits. Not red whine then ? 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted Monday at 20:21 Report Share Posted Monday at 20:21 Just now, JKD said: Not red whine then ? 🤷♂️ Red FORTIFIED wine, without any sound at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minky Posted Monday at 20:32 Author Report Share Posted Monday at 20:32 Sounds like a lot of us got up to similar silly things which could have resulted in various damage or injury. But none of these sort of things got plod out mob handed like nowadays as opposed to total lack of interest in solving real crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted Monday at 20:47 Report Share Posted Monday at 20:47 14 minutes ago, Minky said: Sounds like a lot of us got up to similar silly things which could have resulted in various damage or injury. But none of these sort of things got plod out mob handed like nowadays as opposed to total lack of interest in solving real crime. I certainly did and then got paid to do it for a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agriv8 Posted Monday at 21:33 Report Share Posted Monday at 21:33 8 hours ago, Bigbob said: 03'20 on a Sunday morning seems a funny time to discharge a airgun Yeah I picked that up as a funny time to zero a rifle been down the farm at 02:30 on the rats before now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted Tuesday at 15:19 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 15:19 19 hours ago, Yellow Bear said: Yep - table salt. What was used was chlorate which is no longer easily available for obvious reasons. Has a fire suppressant too I believe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted Tuesday at 17:02 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 17:02 20 hours ago, Yellow Bear said: Yep - table salt. What was used was chlorate which is no longer easily available for obvious reasons. The IRA put paid to sales of sodium chlorate weedkiller Anyone who wanted to mix sodium chlorate and sugar would have had to have had a death wish. Very potent but also very unstable . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciurus Posted Tuesday at 17:29 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 17:29 23 minutes ago, Vince Green said: The IRA put paid to sales of sodium chlorate weedkiller Anyone who wanted to mix sodium chlorate and sugar would have had to have had a death wish. Very potent but also very unstable . I was another who used to stuff sodium chlorate and sugar into used Co2 cartridges from my Dads soda syphon to make a bomb and then set fire to it- I guess I had a lucky escape!🥱 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted Tuesday at 18:53 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 18:53 1 hour ago, Vince Green said: The IRA put paid to sales of sodium chlorate weedkiller Anyone who wanted to mix sodium chlorate and sugar would have had to have had a death wish. Very potent but also very unstable . I must say that I always found it to be rather slow burning and never had a problem with it. Well, I've still got all my digits. Guncotton, however, was quite a different matter, but it still needed a detonator and picric acid really was unstable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murray smith Posted Thursday at 18:32 Report Share Posted Thursday at 18:32 Tim Bonner: The government is coming for your shotguns Published by:Tim Bonneron13th February, 2025 This morning the government fired the starting gun on a debate about restrictions on the ownership of shotguns. It has said that it will consult on “aligning the controls on shotguns with other firearms”. This is a proposal that has long been championed by gun control campaigners and their supporters in the Labour Party. The thrust of the policy is to license shotguns in the same way as rifles and other guns currently dealt with under Section 1 of the Firearms Act. In practical terms this would mean that an applicant would have to show good reason for owning a shotgun, each gun would have to be licensed separately, the purchase and holding of ammunition would be limited and there may be additional restrictions around the storage of shotguns. On top of the big hike in licence fees the government has already announced this is clearly a policy that would reduce gun ownership by making it restrictive, expensive and bureaucratic, which is why it has the support of anti-gun activists. The fact that this significant and unjustified burden on legitimate gun owners would have a huge impact on a sector that contributes £3.3 billion to the economy and supports tens of thousands of jobs - many of them in the most marginal areas of the countryside - is apparently irrelevant. This policy is, in large part, driven by reaction to the horrific killings in Keysham in 2021, although calls for shotguns to be licensed under Section 1 long pre-date that. However, as anyone who has looked at that awful case objectively knows, the police’s failings were so appalling that the licensing system was largely irrelevant. Legitimate gun owners are committed to robust licensing and the Alliance and our partner organisations have consistently worked with the government on issues like medical checks and mental health to improve the system. These new proposals, however, are draconian and unreasonable. They also create a whole new challenge in the relationship between Labour and the countryside. I have warned of the threat to shotguns for some time, in fact I wrote 12 months ago when the party was still in opposition that “significant voices within Labour continue to push for fundamental changes to the licensing system and in particular the requirement for shotguns to be classified as Section 1 firearms”. Even I am surprised, however, that the government is willing to embark upon another fight with the countryside even whilst the row over inheritance tax and family farms rumbles on. However much ministers deny it, many people will see this as part of a wider anti-rural agenda. The prime minister had to be air lifted by helicopter today to escape farmers protesting about inheritance tax. If the government persists with this policy on shotguns, it will be giving 600,000 legitimate gun owners a reason to demonstrate against it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted Thursday at 18:53 Report Share Posted Thursday at 18:53 Already in discussion @murray smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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