benelli Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Is the bead at the end of sthe shotgun meant to be removed.Alot of people say its stupid of the manafatures to put one there as youre menat to be looking at the bird and not the barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Is the bead at the end of sthe shotgun meant to be removed.Alot of people say its stupid of the manafatures to put one there as youre menat to be looking at the bird and not the barrel. Some people do use it i expect, but not many. I just mount the gun and let instinct take over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 if you take it off you wont hit two well.but thats me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Mine fell of at some point during the season, no idea when or where, so I guess it ain't too important! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 The one on my o/u I never notice, but it keeps coming loose. If it comes loose I can't hit **** with it, but as soon as it's back straight I don't see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 The one on my o/u I never notice, but it keeps coming loose. If it comes loose I can't hit **** with it, but as soon as it's back straight I don't see it Methinks a drop of locktite/araldite is called for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1966 Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 i had a mid bead fitted to mine as well as the end bead, i find it helps line up the gun accurately when mounting it. seems to work for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmsy Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 no bead for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 what the hell you want a bead for when you should be looking at the bird/target is beyond me! Beads are for rifle shooting NOT shotgunning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 (edited) what the hell you want a bead for when you should be looking at the bird/target is beyond me! Beads are for rifle shooting NOT shotgunning! That's my view as well. It might affect people psychologically if it comes off (for a while anyway). As much as I'm a great believer in the fact that you're not supposed to be looking at the gun at all, I have to confess that I've never taken mine off :yp: The other silly thing is that I've also got a Mossberg pump-action, which also has a centre bead half-way down the barrel. I thought that this was really silly, so I recently took that off, but strangely, I wasn't happy doing it. I haven't fired it since, so I don't know whether it will affect my shooting - doubt it, but it's strange how hesitant I was about ripping it off Edited March 18, 2008 by Chard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 i like mine on my guns but i also use them for slugs on the range as well and this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Surely a bead's going to help when using a pattern plate? WGD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 (edited) you notice the bead in your perifial vision Edited August 22, 2010 by chrispti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman1 Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 No you dont see the bead in your periphial vision. its only there really to make yourself aware when you mount the gun that you have the rib in a true plane to your vision, after that you look beyond to the target! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 (edited) Oh I see, Edited August 22, 2010 by chrispti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I once lost the bead (unscrewed) off a shotgun and I believe it affected my accuracy with the gun, until I had it replaced. There is no logical explanation as I am never conscious of "sighting" the gun, or of looking at the bead, either directly or in my peripheral vision. My view is, if having a bead works for you, then thats fine. If you prefer not to have a bead, thats fine to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman1 Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Oh I see, then I had better tell our clubs shooting coaches they are all talking ****! Many thanks for your valuabal input sir P.S if your looking beyond the target....................... then exactly what are you 'aiming' at?? Calm youself down, reread what I actually said, not what you said I said. In fact I said- look beyond TO the target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I've always found the bead useful to check gun fit. When I'm shooting, I have never seen the bead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Oh I see, then I had better tell our clubs shooting coaches they are all talking ****! Many thanks for your valuabal input sir P.S if your looking beyond the target....................... then exactly what are you 'aiming' at?? Calm youself down, reread what I actually said, not what you said I said. In fact I said- look beyond TO the target. Do apologise squire, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 (edited) I once lost the bead (unscrewed) off a shotgun and I believe it affected my accuracy with the gun, until I had it replaced.There is no logical explanation as I am never conscious of "sighting" the gun, or of looking at the bead, either directly or in my peripheral vision. My view is, if having a bead works for you, then thats fine. If you prefer not to have a bead, thats fine to. Edited August 22, 2010 by chrispti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy22 Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I would offer the following in relation to this matter: "Any shooter who imagines, therefore, that he shoots purely by instinct, and that the things that contribute to the visual pointability of a gun mean nothing to him, should start entertaining some doubts." G.T.Garwood 1970 That said, the bead per se may or may not be all that important, but I am convinced that the visual cue provided by some or all of the bead, rib and/or barrel is important. Otherwise why mount the gun at all; why not fire from the hip? It may also be useful to consider that not seeing the bead and not looking at it aren't exactly the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Sandy22, cracking post that, sums up what I was eluding to earlier.. I.e If present and "normal" I don't consciously "see" my bead, however if it is not aligned correctly I do see it and it takes my eye away and I have problems. I must actually "see" the bead under normal shooting conditions. I am not looking at it, but it is there in my sight picture. I liken it to perhaps the situation whereby a rifle shooter keeps both eyes open when using a telescopic sight as compared to shutting one eye. When keeping both open one has a different sight picture to before, but you have to trust that this new picture is different but still accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 I was just re-alliterating what our clubs coach's where teaching the new shooters. There's an old addage...if you can, DO! if you can't, TEACH! I don't see many of the Digweeds (with the possible exception of John Bidwell) of this world teaching! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 I was just re-alliterating what our clubs coach's where teaching the new shooters. Hrm, I see no alliteration in the first or subsequent post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy22 Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 I was just re-alliterating what our clubs coach's where teaching the new shooters. Hrm, I see no alliteration in the first or subsequent post Nor do I, but by the same token I doubt you were actually "eluding" earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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