ollie Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Check out this that I just found on the Northern Ireland BBC website. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_irelan...and/3974019.stm What kind of cruel fu##ers are about these days, it's an absolute disgrace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Just another reason to ban the sale of fireworks to the Public. Only organised firework displays that finish at 9pm, to be allowed. That would stop a lot of peoples concerns about this time of the year and the dangerous misuse of fireworks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aled_cky Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 this is abosutely disgusting. what kind of person would have the indecency to burn a dog. i havn't read the full report but was the dog alive? if so that is even worse. Halloween is a excuse for kids to **** about, same with fireworks at Bonfire Night. now i can see why my dad is so Anti-Halloween etc.. Aled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 I don't think banning fireworks is the answer myself, for example, they are banned in northern Ireland but it's not like it stopped those incedents!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted November 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Yeh Aled I think the dog was alive when they burnt it, its a disgrace. Even if fireworks were banned everywhere there would still be ways for them to get into the wrong hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Beasley Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Just another reason to ban the sale of fireworks to the Public.Only organised firework displays that finish at 9pm, to be allowed. That would stop a lot of peoples concerns about this time of the year and the dangerous misuse of fireworks. Yeah but that just reinforces the "if it kills people lets ban it attitude" and thats already been detrimental to shooters when the pistols got banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon master Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 I would have thrown who ever did that straight into the fire myself, kid or adult, who ever it was they will be commiting all kinds of crime most of there lives from now on. Its these head cases that turn into sickos who rape and kill people when they get older. Lock him up and throw away the key or send him to me and I will have him living down my dark damp cellar for a few years. He wouldnt be doing that again I know. Scum Scum Scum :thumbs: The PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 There scum, but I heard theres 'certain people :thumbs: ' looking for them now and I reckon they'll need new knees when they find them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted November 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Oh right I understand Dazza, well them dirty scum deserve that after what they done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Very sick people... And poor dog :thumbs: But yeah, i dont think banning fireworks will help... They'll still find a way to be equally cruel just doing something else... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 if you read it fire works are not involved it was a bonfire that was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted November 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Yeh but I think it says on down the article that fireworks were fired at cats and swans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 If I understand the report, fireworks had no bearing on this act of brutality as the dog was burnt to death on a bonfire even though they were being set off in the celebrations. Banning fireworks as a jerk reaction will have exactly the same effect as the tightening up of the laws relating to the legal ownership of guns everytime there is a firearms related incident. We know very well what the result of that action has resulted in. :thumbs: I am a bit surprised that members of the shooting fraternity would take the line of thought that banning something that they don't personally find agreeable, as the be all and end all to a much wider problem in our society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Every year there are incidents of children and anilmals being maimed and in some instances, killed by the misuse of fireworks. None of which I find "agreeable". The misuse of fireworks is also a common cause of complaint about public nuisance, late night noise, vandalism, harrassment of old people etc etc. How many people on here have had cause to complain (if only to themselves) about fireworks ? To draw any comparison with my suggestion and the banning of handguns is so riseable, as not to be worth commenting on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 Please keep us posted Dazza :thumbs: LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammergun Posted November 2, 2004 Report Share Posted November 2, 2004 There's kids who go round causing mayhem with fireworks in town. The police are told but they do nothing. They know they can do anything they like and they will just get away with it. Banning fireworks isn't the answer, any more than banning the sale of knives from hardware stores will stop people getting stabbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Ban fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Ban fire. Brilliant idea that Mark, it will stop all arson attacks on schools and homes overnight. Just as banning handguns has stopped all crime and killings with them. :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 yet another "result" for the liberal dont you smack my little johny he's a good lad brigade!!! unfortunately it doesn't just affect animals sick enough that that is? chap in sunderland has just been killed as the result of a firework getting pushed through his letter box, it isnt the firework thats the problem its the lack of training kids to understand right from wrong. cheers K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 Sad thing is that the USPCA commented that "this is not an isolated incident" I dont care what sort of deprivation these people suffer there is no excuse for wanton cruelty of this magnitude. Those who carry out this type of deed are (In my opinion) deserving of nothing from society, generally contribute nothing to society and are completely sub human. As for the banning of Fireworks I am in support of Cranfield I am afraid. At the very least proper restrictions should be made and sales should be limited to those over 21. We appear to have poorly organised firework displays in my neighbourhood for every inconsequential celebration almost every month. The damage that some of these modern fireworks can do is unimaginable and horrific. They are nothing short of explosive devices with coloured frills. I hope they catch these philistines and make them run the gauntlet of those who have to try and pick up the pieces resultant of their actions. FM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermin Dropper Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 I think that some people seem to be on the wrong line of thought about this sort of thing. I do agree to the restriction of firework sales, but thats just because of the amount of incidents where young kids and idiots blow bits of their hands off, In my job I am constantly surprised at how stupid and cruel people can be. Banning something will not prevent these inbreds from carrying out acts of cruelty, violence or vandalism. regarding the cases where people are blatantly cruel or destructive, It is down to every single one of us to educate these people against doing such things, (take the word "educate" as you will) I for one guarantee that if this happened local to me, it would not have gone without some form of action taking place. I had recent contact with someone who was subjected to what can only be described as a hate campaign, she had fireworks put through her letterbox, they tried to burn her front door, broke windows and generally abused her when she left or arrived home. The authorities were told and for whatever reason they couldn't or rather wouldn't do anything about it, well....lets just say the situation has now been resolved. I'm sorry this turned into a bit of a rant, and I'm certainly not advocating vigilantes. I suppose my point is; It is all of our responsibilities to ensure that our local areas are a safe place for everyone, old, young, pets, whatever, If you see or hear about it going on then do something about it! :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted November 3, 2004 Report Share Posted November 3, 2004 You may be able to ban fireworks, but then what? People can still make fires. Are you going to try and ban matches and lighters? That would just be silly........ Banning something will just make more people want to get there hands on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Have a look at Page 23 of todays Sun... A good reason why there should be tighter controls on the sale of Fireworks ?? Sick ******** ! Banning Frireworks is indeed not the answer but raising the age limit for their purchase to a sensible level certainly is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Police got the ones that did it, they were released without charge an hour later :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Police got the ones that did it, they were released without charge an hour later :thumbs: And there my friends lies the problem. You can raise the age to 21, but you still aren't going to stop a thing unless there is: 1. Fear of being caught 2. Fear of the consequences of being caught Without both of these, any law is just writing on paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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