Gordon R Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Cranfield - a reasoned letter to the Mail. I have just written to them asking how the dead lamb came to be put down by a vet. I await a response. You are correct in spotting the different tenor of her response to the original article. The article makes flippant mention of the lamb. With time to consider her position, she is now trying to come accross as caring and responsible. All a bit late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzeneye Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 (edited) dont stop there cranfield.... go and finish her off..... well done......"mate".... you can well imagine her type... been watching hugh fernley whittingstall and thinks the countryside is all village fetes and barn dances..... ive no doubt she will fabricate some sort of account portraying herself as some sort of sarah jessica parker/ mar larkin frankenbeast.... Edited July 21, 2008 by myzeneye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Daily Mail.................*******s Well done on the RSPCA angle Cranfield I will be doing the same LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 I have removed some of the earlier irrelevant posts in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_commoner Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 well done guys......................... if i am not mistaken does she take a dog for a walk off the lead in fields with sheep around, that she now states has been mistreated..................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosspot Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 I have a stack of "You" magazines next to the throne, for the half decent crossword contained within. Have after reading this thread scanned them for Ms Jones' column A ) Unhinged springs to mind, box of badgers ect B ) Anyone recommend another crossword Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted July 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 I have a stack of "You" magazines next to the throne B ) Anyone recommend another crossword No, but I reckon I can identify some savings to be made on toilet paper... ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 I have a stack of "You" magazines next to the throne B ) Anyone recommend another crossword No, but I reckon I can identify some savings to be made on toilet paper... ZB Those glossies just don't work, you can never get enough purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 And still no posted comments. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 (edited) And still no posted comments. :unsure: They'll be waiting for some townie to write in praising Ms Jones for her incisive wit and TERRIBLY interesting article, daaaaahling They'll only post the positive, and I think they'll have a long wait for one of those, because the woman can't write Edited July 22, 2008 by Chard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJN Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 And still no posted comments. :unsure: They'll be waiting for some townie to write in praising Ms Jones for her incisive wit and TERRIBLY interesting article, daaaaahling They'll only post the positive, and I think they'll have a long wait for one of those, because the woman can't write maybe the lady in question and the editor are in a relationship (allegedly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 And still no posted comments. :unsure: They'll be waiting for some townie to write in praising Ms Jones for her incisive wit and TERRIBLY interesting article, daaaaahling They'll only post the positive, and I think they'll have a long wait for one of those, because the woman can't write maybe the lady in question and the editor are in a relationship (allegedly) And the dog. Woof Woof (allegedly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 I have just submitted a post in reply to the article, which portrays it as being a joyful read.... Will be interesting to see how long it takes to hit the board, then that can be questioned too....... as im sure it will be quicker than more questioning reply's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_commoner Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 By submitting any material to us, you also waive all your moral rights in such materials and agree not to post any material: 1. that is threatening, defamatory, offensive, abusive, liable to incite racial hatred, discriminatory, blasphemous, pornographic, in breach of confidence, in breach of privacy; or 2. for which you have not obtained all necessary licences and/or approvals; or 3. which constitutes or encourages conduct that would be considered a criminal offence, give rise to civil liability, or otherwise be contrary to the law of or infringe the rights of any third party, in the UK; or 4. which is technically harmful (including, without limitation, computer viruses, logic bombs, Trojan horses, worms, harmful components, corrupted data or other malicious software or harmful data). We will fully co-operate with any law enforcement authorities or court order requesting or directing us to disclose the identity or locate anyone posting material in breach of this clause. i loved this in the terms and conditions section of the comments section, shame it doesn't apply to the article i also trust that the MOS will now ''We will fully co-operate with any law enforcement authorities or court order requesting or directing us to disclose the identity or locate anyone posting material in breach of this clause. [/color]'' with regard to the offences allegedly committed by the author still no comments up !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbald Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Still no comments added. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 I have received an acknowledgement email from Sue Peart Editor of You magazine in which she states that she has passed my comments to Liz Jones and asked for her response. I emailed Ms Peart thanking her for her help and reminded her that the comment section has still not appeared under Ms Jones article. I then received the following email from Liz Jones; --------------- Dear Mr Smith Thank you for your email, and your concern. For your information, upon finding the dog, I made every effort to contact its owner. I put notices in every local vet office, in the local paper, contacted local dog rescue charities, and the police. I also looked on all the appropriate web sites, but no dog matching the description was reported missing. All dogs should be microchipped and be wearing ID on their collar; this dog was not marked in any way. It had been badly mistreated, as my vet will testify, and so if the owner had been found he could have been prosecuted for cruelty and neglect. When the dog was off the lead, it was on my land. The sheep were on my land. I had no idea the dog would worry sheep, but as soon as I found out that he did this, I kept him in a muzzle and on a lead. I not only paid the farmer for the loss of his sheep, I paid the bill for the vet who had put the sheep down. I wonder what more you suggest I should have done. I have every right to be anti blood sports. It is also my right to be a vegan, and to rescue a stray dog. Yours Elizabeth Jones ------------------ I then replied to Ms Jones ; --------------- Dear Ms Jones, I appreciate you taking the time to respond to my email. None of the things you mention in your email appeared in your article and are very easy and convenient to bring forward now, once you are challenged. Whether the lamb was killed on your land or not, it was still killed and probably suffered during its death. It was your responsibility to control your dog. I am afraid buying a muzzle for your dog and making it wear it (how uncomfortable for the dog), is very much acting after the event. You should have thought more about the responsibilities of owning a dog in the countryside, before you decided to keep the dog. I do not question your right to be a vegan, or to be anti country sports, or anything else you choose to believe in and I would defend those rights. Your article painted you as a flippant "airhead", which is probably the image you are trying to project and is quite harmless when dealing with most of the things you write about. However, when dealing with animal welfare and the serious sides of country life, perhaps you would be best to leave this to the real writers, who have real practical experience of these matters. Regards, My real name. ---------------------- I suspect that Ms Peart and Ms Jones have been receiving quite a few communications today and are a little bit sensitive, which is why the Comments section has still not appeared. Cranfield - a reasoned letter to the Mail. I have just written to them asking how the dead lamb came to be put down by a vet. I await a response. You are correct in spotting the different tenor of her response to the original article. The article makes flippant mention of the lamb. With time to consider her position, she is now trying to come accross as caring and responsible. All a bit late. not only was the lamb supposed to be dead but had the missfortune of having its blood and guts strewn all over the place. so did she pick all its bits and pieces up to be taken to the vets then have it put to sleep just to be sure,or did she call the vet out as she could still see the heart and lungs working so hard to fight for this poor lambs life. i dont think that next time the farmer will be bothered who's land or who's dog it is could see the 12 bore to the back of the dogs head,if its worrying his sheep ,poor bloody dog really for having such a spinster which looking after you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Still no comments either. That's odd as I posted one on monday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 can we have a link plz ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr W Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 See first page of thread about 4 entires down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 See first page of thread about 4 entires down Ta Posted this Ms Jones should stick to what she knows and know her place which is clearly not in the country, her sweeping judgment of a less than idyllic British Countryside (in her opinion) is without understanding or foundation and beggars belief . Any reader daft enough to give her article a moments thought without instantly dismissing her baseless views deserves to share and wallow in her self imposed ignorance replt Thank you! Thank you for adding a comment to MailOnline. All contributions by members are pre-moderated. MailOnline receives thousands of messages every day so please be patient, so far no comments posted :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klunk Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 It seems the 'charm defensive' is gearing up. Today she seems to be claiming that her and her previously-declared killer dog are now heroically rescuing ickle lambie-wammies from their fates, unlike those nasty farmers. Check this out: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/you/article-102...tenance-me.html Seems like a respinning of the previously told yarn, imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 It makes you wonder why the dog was guarding the lamb, perhaps to stop anyone else having his dinner. Bloody imbecile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 This gets better and better.... i have also posted a comment to that article, so we shall wait and see whether it gets posted or not :yp: my guess like your is the latter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr W Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 The original article is no. 103 while this latest one is no. 102 suggesting that that is last weeks article? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 just posted this and they thanked me! oh what sport :yp: For God sake stop your Ill informed ramblings “ I think she had panicked escaping a fox†one suspects the only Fox you have ever encountered came from Russia and hung round your neck at a dinner party, Please do us all a favour and discard the Hunters, move back to the city and resume comments on fluffy kittens and woolly jumpers from afar pavman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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