flash Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 after speaking to a mate last night, i have been possibly offered some wild boar shooting down near me in devon. it would be for me and my father. his current rifles are .243, .308 and a 30 06. of these three calibres only the 30 06 is without a scope. but it is still accurate with iron sites up to 100yrds. im guessing from these 3 calibres, only the 30 06 and .308s are suitable for the job, with ballistic tips of course. also whats the best way of tackling them, from a hide, high seat, vehicle or on foot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Im not sure i would use balistic tips, this isnt my area of shooting, maybe some sort of partition bullet? Maybe the chap who does alot of boar shooting (holland and holland?) can give his opinion. Either this or i believe stuartP went boar shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 (edited) THE 2 calibre youy mentioned should do the job, I think a 243 is the lowest calibre recommended but I would go for the bigger ones! Not so sure about Devon but in australia they wait at the watering hole in a hide and shoot the boars when they come to drink, theres some good videos on youtube. They use a 308 and it drops them 1 hit without them running! Edited September 26, 2008 by Bigthug87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Bigthug, with respect, I recall you don't have an FAC yet: the .243 is not the lowest calibre recommended. In fact it's nowhere near suitable - I wouldn't dream of using mine on boar. Home Office guidance advises .270 Win as the minimum. Having shot a lot of boar, I would go for the .30-06 with a 1.5-6x scope, although the .308 will do an equally good job. If you ever want to shoot boar in France though, you will not be able to use a military calibre like a .308 or .30-06. Personally I use a .30-06 now for boar, and used 12g slugs, 9.3x74R and .375 H&H on a very regular basis when I lived abroad. Don't even think of using ballistic tipped rounds. Boar are very substantial, tough animals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 ......with ballistic tips of course. It`s been nice knowing you Like Nick says, partition, as the beast is a heavy bodied animal, also check out the web for boar targets as the heart is placed slightly differently in a wild boar when compared to a deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Firearms Law 2002 Guidance to the Police Chapter 13.25 pg69 The type of rifle authorised should be appropriate to the quarry species, for example .270, .30-06 or .308 or greater for wild boar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Axe is well in the know at the moment I tell thee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 http://police.homeoffice.gov.uk/publicatio...pdf?view=Binary I won't say its a good read but it normally answers most questions. Always a good place to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 (edited) Why is a .243 not suitable with appropriate bullet. I would not like to show my butt to one at 50 yards, surely they have enough stopping power. 105g .243 approx 2000 ft-lb 150g .308 approx 2600 ft-lb (Ok you can go bigger) Edited September 26, 2008 by markm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 That's just it - it's about stopping power, which isn't directly related to muzzle energy. Where the .243 comes up short is the lack of momentum the little round offers when compared to a slower, fatter .308 round. Hydrostatic shock isn't as important as penetration and bone-crushing power offered by a bullet with a greater frontal area and mass. Incidentally, I wasn't aware that 105g heads were available for a .243 that aren't A-Max (or other non-expanding heads). I agree though Mark, I wouldn't want to bare my behind to a .243 in any situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 A mate of mine has shot 3 LARGE boar in the last few months all with a .243. One was shot between the eyes and the other two behind the ear. Worked a treat. Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarms Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 I am assuming from a high seat over bait? S/a Shotgun with SSG or Slugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flash Posted September 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 i was thinking baited from a high seat, with the mauser 30 06, and a 3 shot semi with magnum SSG just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 A mate of mine has shot 3 LARGE boar in the last few months all with a .243. One was shot between the eyes and the other two behind the ear. Worked a treat. Harry Rather him than me, Harry, but then surely you, as a police officer, wouldn't condone using a calibre below the Home Office's recommended limit of .270? Flash, have you got a reliable, steady dog with a good nose? On the off-chance that you wing the boar, it'll just vanish into the undergrowth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Bigthug, with respect, I recall you don't have an FAC yet: the .243 is not the lowest calibre recommended. In fact it's nowhere near suitable - I wouldn't dream of using mine on boar. Home Office guidance advises .270 Win as the minimum. Having shot a lot of boar, I would go for the .30-06 with a 1.5-6x scope, although the .308 will do an equally good job. If you ever want to shoot boar in France though, you will not be able to use a military calibre like a .308 or .30-06. Personally I use a .30-06 now for boar, and used 12g slugs, 9.3x74R and .375 H&H on a very regular basis when I lived abroad. Don't even think of using ballistic tipped rounds. Boar are very substantial, tough animals. My mistake Baldrick mate, it was the 270 I had in mind at the time that should be the lowest, like I said I wouldnt like to be using a 243 on one of those monsters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 (edited) Just to add my 2p worth. I am going Boar shooting and have been adviced to go for 30 cal minimum by folk more experienced that myself, so with that, i take the more experienced advice, not from someone who "thinks" they know. After saying that, we are not shooting from a high seat so we will be possible Boar snack's if a Boar is a bit "Pd" off by having a whole pricked into its side by a calibre not big enough to do the job. I have gone with 30.06 shooting as heavy bullet as possible with regards to accuracy and not ballistic tips or match bullets. Edited September 27, 2008 by Dougy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slarti54 Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 And they might do it in Aus, but it's not ethical to shoot animals at a watering hole... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 (edited) Shotgun option. Shotgun and slug. If they are in and around bushes and undergrowth, a 1oz slug will smash through any twigs in its path, possibly the same with large shot LG in centre of picture 9mm and 6 to the oz. to the left just for comparison a .410 slug and to the right a 12 bore Brenneke 1oz slug that would probably stop anything on legs. Edited September 27, 2008 by Paladin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 I'd use the .30-06 with irons if you can use them well. With respect to Harry, police guidelines are just that, a guide. They say .22lr isn't good for Fox, but plenty of people use it. Head shots on a still Boar shouldn't be a problem with the .243, but I think the issue comes in when shooting them running. When a body shot is considered, obviously a bigger calibre would be an advantage as there is a lot of heavy muscle for the bullet to contend with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traztaz Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 I live and shoot in Germany and shoot alot of pig , don't know just how big the big ones have got in UK but I do know UK has alot of learning to do as regards wild boar.There is a delegation from UK comming over here shortly to a friend to do a fact finding mission on Boar , so at last you may get some real info and a minimum caliber..............we wait and see. In a rough sort of way I can tell you what I know , they are tough as hell, can kill people and as such should be regarded as dangerous game when hunting them. I shoot them in various manners, high seat, stalked ( very difficult) and driven , and would reccomend a caliber of no less than 7mm for all of the above.When shooting driven pig the preferd caliber for me is my 9.32x62 , it wallops them a little more. I never shoot at boar at more than 80m even when stood still , and have experienced boar shot with my .308 with a 185g soft nosed bullet at 40-50m run nearly a k with a boiler room shot!!!!! The head of the boar smashes like a dropped glass when hit with a bullet, however it is a difficult shot and not reccomended as if you guff it you leave a wounded boar on the loose and that is a very very dangerous animal!!!!!!I condone in no way at all head shooting boar. Loads more to asy on the subject , and if you would like to know more please ask here or PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flash Posted September 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 the ower has taken a few of them with his 9 bored and SSGs. but im not convinced. i think our best bet is to bait them into a spot for a few nights and take them from a highseat. using either the 30 06 or the 308. what bullet head and weight is recomended for the above calibres? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 180gn partition/A frame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flash Posted September 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 kk, any specific make that is considered best? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 A mate of mine has shot 3 LARGE boar in the last few months all with a .243. One was shot between the eyes and the other two behind the ear. Worked a treat. Harry Rather him than me, Harry, but then surely you, as a police officer, wouldn't condone using a calibre below the Home Office's recommended limit of .270? Flash, have you got a reliable, steady dog with a good nose? On the off-chance that you wing the boar, it'll just vanish into the undergrowth. Baldrick, As stated it's a recomendation not a legal requirement. I can condone someone who is known and trusted by me to make a decision in the circumstances as to whether the shot is on. Cheers Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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