rec-baller Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 a amte of mine has offered me a 410 shottie that has been hanging on his wall, he did,nt realise you couldnt own a "little"shotgun without a licence !!! ( his words-not mine ) he doe,snt have a s.g.c so how do i go about getting it transfered onto mine ?? any ideas ?? shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edr Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Your best bet is to contact your local firearms licensing department (FLD) and explain the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayward Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 (edited) Tread real careful or your "amte" may receive a stretch in a local government hotel Tbh i would forget this idea you both could end up in lot of trouble ,im sure more advice will follow but having read previous posts on a similar vain this is not a good idea @ all .... The above post is not a good idea you will implicate your self and your pal wait for better advice AND You best to remember that ignorance to the law is no defense !!! Edited September 30, 2008 by jayward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 There are people on here who will be far better than me at this.... However ... he cannot keep it unless he does a lot of explaining and gets a licence. I suggest he GIVES it to you not sell it to you. Then you put it officially on your ticket.... at the same time as you both explain how this came about. Potentially he could face action by the police. But hopefully not ....... especially if you already own it as gift. It may be a can of worms! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 I'm not sure how you should go about this really. You could end up getting him in trouble? I suggest you take it from him and take it to your local RFD, who (I think) has the authority to sign it onto your certificate without asking too many questions. Where did your mate get it from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagsy Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 (edited) I seem to recall a RFD can sort this out for you without too many problems - give 'em a ring and see. EDIT to say he'd need to take the gun in to the RFD who I think can transfer it over to you. Tread carefully. Edited September 30, 2008 by Bagsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game_boy Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Probably better if he hands in in to the local police station anonymously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJ2 Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 We've all heard of W.W.2 "momentos" turning up in peoples attics after their death etc. I suppose if you were clearing the attic/shed/garage of an elderly relative and you came across a firearm that was unregistered, and that elderly relative was unaware of its existance, and you immediately put it in your gun cabinet for safe keeping, and immediately called the Firearms Officer, and your certificate covered the ownership of such a firearm i.e Shotgun Certificate, then any criminal intent would be difficult to prove. Whether you could keep it or not is a different question. If you do manage to take over ownership, bear in mind it's been on a wall for a while. Have it checked over by somebody competent, and if necessary have it proofed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 I seem to recall a RFD can sort this out for you without too many problems - give 'em a ring and see. EDIT to say he'd need to take the gun in to the RFD who I think can transfer it over to you. Tread carefully. rfd can put it on your ticket. iv heard people say it can be done, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 I have also read that a RFD can put it legally on your ticket with not much trouble, phone in and ask them ananomously so you dont get in trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzeneye Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 ring basc and ask... if your a member that is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 I have also read that a RFD can put it legally on your ticket with not much trouble, phone in and ask them ananomously so you dont get in trouble its not that simple as questions are asked quite rightly as to where the unlicensed firearm has been, after all it could have been used in a crime etc. Likewise putting it in your cabinet isn't such a good idea as technically you are in posession of an unlicensed firearm so could get your ticket revoked. RFD's can get away with the odd one by saying they've anonomously been dropped in but they run the risk of getting investigated if they do many so usually they don't want to touch them with a barge pole. Unless it is something a bit special it simply isn't worth the agro and personally i know of farm guns that have "turned up" that have simply been cut up and disposed of as it is the easiest course of action. If you really want to keep it if you get on well with your RFD ask their advice first and follow that. Going to your FEO involves you and your knowledge of an off ticket gun and will usually result in the police calling to collect it and lots of questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 It is not that much aggro at all, it all depends what mood your local RFD is in or how well you know them. A quick phone call is all it will take. I did this for a friend who found a gun in a shed when he bought a house. I took it to my local gun shop, he signed it on to his books and then straight on to my ticket. Itr is very doubtful that it will have been used in a crime, unless A) your friend lives in manchester (Chard) or it is quite a bit shorter than a normal gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 The law was changed a while ago to make it easy for anyone with an off-licence gun to hand it in at a RFD without any questions asked. This law was designed to encourage illegal owners to hand in their guns without fear of prosecution. If you take it into your local police station, they may not want to transfer it, but may just want to scrap it. It is the simplest of matters to take the gun into you local friendly RFD (preferably one that you deal with on a regular basis) get him to accept the gun and then to transfer it onto your ticket. He should only charge @ £20 for the paperwork, but you must make sure that the gun has never been stolen or you could end up in the doo-doo. You must also make sure that the gun has a proof mark on it, otherwise the dealer won’t be able to let you have it back. I have had this done more than once by people who have either found old guns in the attic or had one that was left in the back of the wardrobe and forgotten about when hubby died. Never had anyone find a Purdy yet though. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambu13 Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 chop it up into little pieces and scatter it all over the globe!i had a similar experience which is still not resolved!so be prepared for a long drawn out process and posibly like others have said, your mate getting it in the neck! sambu13 p.s was only joking about the chopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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viking Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 for what the gun will be worth price wise, and the trouble it may cause you or your mate, i would chop them up into small bits and bin em, no questions no fuss no harm done, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyfox Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 I read somewhere on a webpage that if you find a shotgun in the attic you leave it alone and phone the please straight the way. So wipe it clean and get it a bit dusty and there you go. No trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Scroll to the bottom of the page - http://www.sportingshooter.co.uk/guns-and-...ff/firearms-law G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 good work g.m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosspot Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 I tried the BASC route for a situation like this and found them downright unhelpful RFD sorted it in minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 The law was changed a while ago to make it easy for anyone with an off-licence gun to hand it in at a RFD without any questions asked. This law was designed to encourage illegal owners to hand in their guns without fear of prosecution. If you take it into your local police station, they may not want to transfer it, but may just want to scrap it. Any reference to this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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