Deako Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 What netting do you guys use and why do you recommend it? Has anybody used the new 'moorland' cammo from Deben's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 I have indeed and am well chuffed with it. I saw it on the Deben stand at the CLA game fair but it was new and they had no stock. I ordered one and it arrived a few weeks later. Colouring is spot on and it's not too heavy. I got the one with the nylon net for added durability although I reckon the scrim on its own would be fine. Not cheap but like everyone says, you get what you pay for. 10/10 by the way, I saw the woodland version and it's too green for my liking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted January 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 Thanks Tony, I intend to trial some of this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean johnston Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 Deako .I have just ordered some of the deben moorland camo netting, so i will let you know what it is like when i have tried it.It is supposed to be good stuff. Regards sean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigie Posted January 9, 2003 Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 What netting do you use in the winter when theres a little snow on the ground and no leaves on any trees or hedges? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted January 9, 2003 Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 I only use 2 types of net all year round .The normal green/brown ones when setting up in hedgerows and desert camo net and clothing when setting up around bales on stubble.I think it is just a matter of getting the shades of colour right rather than the actual colour as I am sure I read that pigeons along with most birds and animals are colour blind anyway. :*) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 9, 2003 Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 I read in an old Army manual, many years ago,that camouflage worked on the principle of breaking down outlines. Therefore colour doesn,t matter as long as you present a "distorted" picture. There is also the debate whether birds and animals can recognise colour. I believe this, but do not have the confidence to erect a bright red net, against a green/brown hedgerow and stand behind it all day, hoping to shoot a pigeon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted January 9, 2003 Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 There was an article and pictures in "Sporting gun" some years ago where a chap set up a fluorescent orange net in a field with the caption "Would you use a net like this?" They then put the same picture along side it with the colour removed and said this is what the pigeon sees.Of course it blended in quite naturally with the surroundings and the chap was reported as having a normal bag for the day.Last July when I had my best day ever (120) on rape stubble,while the day was mainly sunny,there were times when black clouds came over and dropped the full works on me. During these spells I put up a large multi-coloured brolly for shelter but the pigeons still came in regardless.Shooting was difficult though with brolley in left hand and the gun in the other but managed a few.To sum up,I dont think colour puts the birds off at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 9, 2003 Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 ernyha, I agree with you that colour doesn,t matter, my friends in the US have to do most of their shooting wearing fluro orange vests, hat bands etc. It doesn,t make any difference to their success. However, I,m quite happy sitting behind green/brown cammo net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted January 9, 2003 Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 Me too ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kippylawkid Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 Do you have the contact details for Debden? Phone or web site would be great. I fancy one of the moorland nets. Many Thanks Dave Wright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NGhost Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 www.deben.com They are usualy deliverd within 48 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 Deako, Did you order the moorland net in the end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted January 21, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 Tony, we are in the process of ordering dozens of nets from Debens, both the green one and the moorland, both are very good and good value for money. Should have the prices soon, they'll be cheaper than anywhere else! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead-eye-dick Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 Looking at the 'STUPID' price of hide netting, I found our old friend N&S do good quality 'cheap' netting, but only have light brown in stock :X :X After reading your reports, It seems everyone thinks colour doen't matter - BUT you all seem to have green/brown nets. I don't know if I should go for the "harvest" net or pay TWICE the price for green/brown - if only for my own peace of mind. I'm sure, in nature, hedge rows contain trees of all srts of colours and shades, which pigeons ignor completely. But if I go for standard colours it's one less thing to blame for a 'poor day' :*) :*) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean johnston Posted February 22, 2003 Report Share Posted February 22, 2003 Reynard, how much do you sell a 15x6 moorland net for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reynard895 Posted February 23, 2003 Report Share Posted February 23, 2003 I could supply you with a net for £46 + P&P cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJ Posted February 23, 2003 Report Share Posted February 23, 2003 A little tip I have been given. When you have constructed your hide, climb in and get your mate (or Mrs) to take a photo of you with a black and white film loaded in the camera. This apparently will show you what the pigeons see. I always use natural materials when I can to break up the outline of the net, kind of camo to camo the camo. Does that make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted February 26, 2003 Report Share Posted February 26, 2003 There is also the debate whether birds and animals can recognise colour. I think you'll find that in North America, deer hunters wear day-glow orange to avoid being shot. It might even be the law to wear it!! This should get some reaction from west side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Pieman Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 With another war looming, perhaps we need to equip our Marines with orange suits to stop the Americans shooting them again!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Pieman Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 Maj, it makes perfect sense! I also worry about the topline of the netting, and try to break it up a bit with the occasional bit of branch etc :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 Rjimmer; you are correct in Ontario at least during our large game seasons we are required to wear, I believe 400 sq. inches, of hunter safty orange. Since deer, moose,etc. are colour blind it is not a huge deal, since this laws conception though we have virtually eliminated all accidental shootings, ( usually caused by some well meaning townie), during are hunting seasons. The exception to this law is during the bow hunting season when we can wear full camo. The reasoning being during rifle/ shot gun you are stalking and driving, but during the archerie you do most of your hunting from stands. This law changes from province to province and from state to state. Pigeon Pieman ; thank you for blaming the correct side of the boarder. It is similar to calling a Scotsman English or an Englishman Wales or a Gentleman from Wales Irish. Before you start no offence meant to any, I'm just saying we are all proud of where we come from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted February 27, 2003 Report Share Posted February 27, 2003 we are required to wear, I believe 400 sq. inches, of hunter safty orange. A chap showed me jacket completely of pink/orange or somewhere between the two. He used it in this country. It was full of goose down. I dred to think how long it would take to dry out after a soaking. It did not appear to be waterproof! Once the winter has set in in North America, I don't suppose you have to worry about rain, just wind and temperature, or am I wrong? We can go out in -10 F before dawn and experience an inch or two of rain by nightfall, so our clothing has to be multifunctional. That's why we are all questing warm breathable garments that are 100% waterproof. The Riverswest stuff looks as if it might fit the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted February 28, 2003 Report Share Posted February 28, 2003 From Aug. thru the end of October it rains. Then from Nov. through the end of Feb. it snows wet, dry, blizzard, with occassional rain. Then the month of March takes the rest of the nasty weather that hasn't been used up yet and throws it at you till its gone. Quality clothing is a must. Some of the best stuff I've seen is a product called Storm Wear it's light weight, very quite, breathable, and water proof. There are lots of differant lines on the market over here. If you check out the cabela's on line store they will show you most of them. www.cabelas.com this is a U.S. based store, with online ordering. We don't have any stores of this magnitude in Canada so its probably best if you look their first. Check out your U.S. and Canadian exchange rates I believe you get a better deal in Canada, if this is so let me know what you are interested in and I'll check for it in our stores. If my memory serves me correct Storm Wear and Shadow Wear are both Canadian products. Just let me know if I can help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted March 3, 2003 Report Share Posted March 3, 2003 What netting do you guys use and why do you recommend it?Has anybody used the new 'moorland' cammo from Deben's? I use two kinds of netting one dark green and one light green. When i make my hide i choose the colour i want then when i have finished making my hide i always put branches around it and on the roof of the hide this makes it blend in even more. So i don't needed all different nets e.g (real tree,moorlands) but they are good and i have seen them as i live 2 miles away froms debens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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