henry d Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 ......if woodpigeon are colour blind why do we have coloured decoys ?? Answers on a postcard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Because they appeal to us, we buy them, not the pigeons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Why do people point to their wrist when asking for the time, but people don't point to their crotch when they ask where the bathroom is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Why do people point to their wrist when asking for the time, but people don't point to their crotch when they ask where the bathroom is? You mean you don't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 ......if woodpigeon are colour blind why do we have coloured decoys ?? Answers on a postcard Because if we replicate the same colours as we see them the shades of grey will all look the same to the pigeons? Or is this a trick question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted September 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Because if we replicate the same colours as we see them the shades of grey will all look the same to the pigeons? Or is this a trick question? No just asking as a general query and to my mind Cranners has it closest at the mo, however the shades of grey are not just grey there are blues etc and the breast feathers have a lovely red leather look to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 No just asking as a general query and to my mind Cranners has it closest at the mo, however the shades of grey are not just grey there are blues etc and the breast feathers have a lovely red leather look to them. All thoese blues, reds, purples will look slightly different when seen in greyscale, but also I think the whole, "looking like a pigeon to the buyer" is a huge part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 so all this stuff about UV paint is a load of tut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Ah!, but how do you KNOW pigeons are colour blind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 No just asking as a general query and to my mind Cranners has it closest at the mo, however the shades of grey are not just grey there are blues etc and the breast feathers have a lovely red leather look to them. Poor wording on my part, My reference to shades of grey is what the bird will see. Red, blue green whatever, will be a shade of grey to a pigeon if indeed that is how they see. What better way to reproduce those shades of grey than to just reproduce the colours of the real bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 who cares doesnt matter as long as they work and you hit the pigeons when they come in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George1990 Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Reading something the other day and it said something along the lines of "but when it comes to camouflage for animals that see colour, like pigeons..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 they do see in colour - but also see in a range of UV as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 taken from our namesake... http://www.birds.cornell.edu/pigeonwatch/r...s-about-pigeons Eyesight: Pigeon eyesight is excellent. Like humans, pigeons can see color, but they also can see ultraviolet light—part of the light spectrum that humans can’t see. Pigeons are sometimes used in human search-and-rescue missions because of their exceptional vision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Henry there is a very simple answer to you question . Pigeons are not colour blind !!!!!! I do not know where this falicy came from but you often see it mentioned in shooting magazines. If anyone is interested read " Ornithology " by Gill , page 190 or a paper by Krethen M & Eisner , in Nature , 272 1978. Pigeons have better colour vision than humans being able to see some colours our eyes are not sensitive to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nial Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 They might not be colour blind but sillo-socks seem to work well and they're just different shaed of grey (and ultra-violet pait). ? Nial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Has anyone ever looked at a woody under a UV light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 i'll take one with me next time i'm dj'ing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 i'll take one with me next time i'm dj'ing :yp: Post a few pics if you would be so kind, not of the ravers using them as glow sticks though, could get messy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronny Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Well whos prepared to paint a dozen decoys bright orange and sit and wait and see..................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traztaz Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Try wearing some nice bright orange cammo next time you are out.........................................They deffo see in coulor!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerseaDavid Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 The pigeons will probably come in better because they are used to looking for people in camo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr salt Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 was going to post something about skinners experiments with pigeons. just googled it as i could not remember what he did ,with rewarding them with food each time they pecked at a different coloured light or lolipop. and loads of stuff come up about him teaching them to steer misslies into ships.!!!!(U.S navy) took my mind of colour! Pigeons do see colour ,but its movement that spooks them ,in the field. cheers scott sorry about spelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 I could not beleve it the other day I saw a pigeon shooter set up a hide next to some bright orange sacks used to stop pheasants wandering off down boundary hedgerows. Even more amazing he did get a shot or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 taken from our namesake... http://www.birds.cornell.edu/pigeonwatch/r...s-about-pigeons Eyesight: Pigeon eyesight is excellent. Like humans, pigeons can see color, but they also can see ultraviolet light—part of the light spectrum that humans can’t see. Pigeons are sometimes used in human search-and-rescue missions because of their exceptional vision. This and statements like it, ie cows see things 10 times larger than we do etc, have always baffled me. How they KNOW that? Look through a pigeons eyeball???/ It's not how the birds brain translates it when it is alive. I'd like to know how come scientists can expound these theories with absolute certainty, when examoning a dead bird has no relation as to how the living birds brain /eye interface functions in life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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