cocker3 Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 i just got a call from a farmer asking me to deal with his pigeon problem 600acres 4 rape fields he got my number from one of my permissons (i said yes in the blink of an eye then asked him where he was few only 10 miles away )then he asked how much if would cost him i said i would do it for free but it got me thinking how much would you charge buy the way he said free can you shoot the roe as well ( no brainer that one) :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexr Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 On going permission, What else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Most people pay the farmer. you lucky so and so.... Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Asking for cash money might be a bit necky, but since he asked I would chance my arm and suggest a slab of cartridges? Having said that I'm very much in the having to grovel to shoot situation, so you are very lucky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendersons Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 i got given 500 cartridges at christmas and offered to keep buying them for me as long as i keep shooting his pigeons. I did try to turn down and be all polite about it but he left some money somewhere for them so i had to take it. Between you and me though I don't tell him when i'm running out I feel quite bad about taking his money but sometimes he does insist So in conclusion I suppose I charge him for about half the cartridges I use give or take nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbo. Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 i just got a call from a farmer asking me to deal with his pigeon problem 600acres 4 rape fields he got my number from one of my permissons (i said yes in the blink of an eye then asked him where he was few only 10 miles away )then he asked how much if would cost him i said i would do it for free but it got me thinking how much would you charge buy the way he said free can you shoot the roe as well ( no brainer that one) Brill, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 its about being in the right place at the right time, despite what some members on here think about farmers growing crops for fun there is a significant financial aspect to farming. So he either buys numerous gas guns and the gas to run them and patrols with rockets etc or gets someone to do it for him, in this case its a bargain slip you a few quid and save thousands in crop losses. Obviously its a supply and demand thing if there are an abundance of shooters trying to get on the land then the farmer may well charge, a fair bit round us is tied up with Pigeon guides who pay per acre but the farmers do seem a bit upset that they wait for lots of pigeons on the ground before turning up so not sure how long it will last Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scout Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I have a good arrangement with my farmers where I get the stalking rights for exchange for pest control. Occassionally they'll slip me a slab of carts but that's a bonus and I never ask for it, just like they don't ask for their annual bottle of something at Christmas. Whatever works for you, doing it for no money will mean you are more likely to keep the permission, as there are always people out looking for new permissions that will do it for free, so I always try not to put a commerial value you on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 £125 a day is average daliy wage but you need to be able to show good bag sizes which is a struggle in winter. On rabbits I charge £50 for each of us there is two me and my wife is the day charge to cover transport and then £2.50 per rabbit I catch and show to customer . Good on a 30 plus day not so good on two or three day. Regards OTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 £125 a day is average daliy wage but you need to be able to show good bag sizes which is a struggle in winter. On rabbits I charge £50 for each of us there is two me and my wife is the day charge to cover transport and then £2.50 per rabbit I catch and show to customer . Good on a 30 plus day not so good on two or three day. Regards OTH So £100 plus £2.50 for each rabbit you catch/shoot? A farmer pays you £125 per day to shoot pigeons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 so get me right if you get 30 it works out at £5.83 per rabbit caught and if you only get 2 its £52.50 per rabbit. Who said the gas man should have worn a mask this is pure madness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 2 things lead me to believe your post is a wind up cocker.... 1. The Guy is Scottish 2. Hes a Farmer A Scottish farming Philanthropist, I thought they were rarer than unicorns...I must be mistaken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 2 things lead me to believe your post is a wind up cocker.... 1. The Guy is Scottish 2. Hes a Farmer A Scottish farming Philanthropist, I thought they were rarer than unicorns...I must be mistaken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 2 things lead me to believe your post is a wind up cocker.... 1. The Guy is Scottish 2. Hes a Farmer A Scottish farming Philanthropist, I thought they were rarer than unicorns...I must be mistaken Well spotted Les :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 (edited) Personally I get from one or two around here who give me shells, and one or two who buy the bullets- On occasion I might add. To be honest you are on a hiding to nothing getting subsidized shooting unless you are good and have plenty of time to put in. I do know one fella around who has tried to start charging-But up to now he has all he has achieved is losing some of the permissions he already has. I can't imagine farmers entertaining that as it simply is a cost which cannot be substanciated, and inevertably is open to abuse. There is also a local large farming corporation who employ a full time pest controller.... I know him and his salary is.......£15000 + a vehicle, and to be honest he hates the job after thinking that he strived for it as being the best job in the world when he first got it. Edited January 14, 2010 by starlight32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 so get me right if you get 30 it works out at £5.83 per rabbit caught and if you only get 2 its £52.50 per rabbit. Who said the gas man should have worn a mask this is pure madness Do you get stabling for your horse as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I've been offered money for cartridges by a couple of land owners. I've never taken it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 (edited) So £100 plus £2.50 for each rabbit you catch/shoot? A farmer pays you £125 per day to shoot pigeons? Not so much pigeons but I do have two farmers who pay me the only reason this started is when I became part self employed ,a farmer ask me to take some real problem birds out. I said I am booked up with work and could not do it for some time he asked me how I charged for a day labour so I told him £125 and he was willing to pay that if I could show regular good bags of pigeons and rabbits. Now before some you all scream thats bull etc etc the reason I get paid is I am well know in the farming cicrle . And the reason most struggle to find perm is that the landowner does not know most shooters who turn up on there doorstep. Would you let a guy/girl walk round your garden with a firearm if you did not know there life history??. Now most of our paid work is rabbiting in private gardens where huge damage is caused by rabbits on young trees and shrubs. All started on frilford golf course when some of the locals approached myself and wife to clear huge amounts of rabbits from there lovely sandy gardens. Which it snowballed it still a hobbie more than a business but it pays for the ferrets and if my work is quite a income of sorts in winter . All the best OTH Edited January 14, 2010 by Over the hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 i just got a call from a farmer asking me to deal with his pigeon problem 600acres 4 rape fields he got my number from one of my permissons (i said yes in the blink of an eye then asked him where he was few only 10 miles away )then he asked how much if would cost him i said i would do it for free but it got me thinking how much would you charge buy the way he said free can you shoot the roe as well ( no brainer that one) OK If I've read this right you were refered by one farmer to another and presumably farmer #1 doesn't pay you. QED you could be shooting yourself in the foot! Farmers talk to each other (how do you think you got the referal in the first instance) and will talk about yoohoo. I find relationships with people especially farming types are based on trust and if you're seen to do right by them they'll usually do right by you. Think it's called 'reputation'. If you don't normally charge and are happy not to do so presumably because it's your passion not your livelyhood then why try it on. By all means suggest that farmer #2 might like to give you the occassional box of cartridges or somesuch but asking him to pay you could be asking for (long term) trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I have turned down payment in the past, mainly because it makes you too obligated and as far as possible I like to choose when and where I go. I am also fortunate that some of the Farmers give me cartridges, all the vegetables I need when in season, access to wood for logs and other little benefits that all add up. The strange thing is that they give me all this and are grateful that I am about all the time, but I still give them a bottle at Christmas. They all say, "you shouldn't have done that", but I bet they would notice if I didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker3 Posted January 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 2 things lead me to believe your post is a wind up cocker.... 1. The Guy is Scottish 2. Hes a Farmer A Scottish farming Philanthropist, I thought they were rarer than unicorns...I must be mistaken :( not all scotsmen are tight **** but hey a see where your comin from lolol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker3 Posted January 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 OK If I've read this right you were refered by one farmer to another and presumably farmer #1 doesn't pay you. QED you could be shooting yourself in the foot! Farmers talk to each other (how do you think you got the referal in the first instance) and will talk about yoohoo. I find relationships with people especially farming types are based on trust and if you're seen to do right by them they'll usually do right by you. Think it's called 'reputation'. If you don't normally charge and are happy not to do so presumably because it's your passion not your livelyhood then why try it on. By all means suggest that farmer #2 might like to give you the occassional box of cartridges or somesuch but asking him to pay you could be asking for (long term) trouble. just to to make it clear i dont charge any of may permissions for shooting it my hobby and i didnt ask him he asked me (and i declinedand money ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerseaDavid Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 I have been given cartridges many times by farmer but never offered money. I would never charge to shoot the land. We used to be able to sell the pigeons, rabits and even foxes many years back, but now we are not getting a good price for the pigeons or rabits and they just go for dog food unless we eat them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) A cartridge for every pigeon shot would be something, I suppose. The grower could claim cartridges as a business expense, but not cash handed out to an un-named pest controller. Edited January 17, 2010 by rjimmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Hi . can only speak from experience, i have had the same thing happen to me ,but have never took a penny or a cartridge , sorry only once , i was paid for 500 rounds of 22 lr ,of which i had to take the reciept round to the farm house .an then it started, any rabbit within a 10 mile radius was down to me , comments from other farmers in the pub, you know , never seen as many rabbits,, an believe me i must have took a 1000 rabbits plus that year off his land , so it was a hard lesson learned , do it for free an your doing them a favour , take money an your asking for trouble , trust me , most people are begging for shooting rights , even now i get, i will buy 250 cartridges , but i just say no thanks , i enjoy coming , an this attitude works , i have so much ground to shoot on its unreal, Thare was a guy on another forum on about being paid for rabbit shooting , something like , him plus wife =£100 + 2.50 a rabbit !!!! so him plus wife an 100 rabbits = £350 + £1.00 at game dealers for each rabbit =$450 . Got to go now , early start for the driven dodo's . Cheers Holden most people i know like me, were poor before, still are , an will be after the reccession, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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