SSS Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 (edited) yep. i regulry shoot foces with my gas powerd bb gun, kill them sotne dead at 1500 yard with a wee bit o holdover. ha! Have you been on the vodka babs? Edited February 6, 2010 by SSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I was told that there was a legal minimum weight of 40 grains for shooting fox. ***, we'll have every tom **** and harry out there wounding foxes with pea shooters next. Not sure who told you that, it's wrong. No legislation says what you can or cannot use on fox - so in terms of firearms law, you're legal. However, we also have laws governing cruelty to animals - air rifle on fox is not commonly considered humane, so you may fall foul of these laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heladoxa Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Have you been on the vodka babs? Pleeez laeve babs alon. praps his hadda bad day. U dont no :rols eye: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 I did notice that Mr Wallace only said he had 'shot' foxes with an air rifle.. Never said he killed any mind you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Pleeez laeve babs alon. praps his hadda bad day. U dont no :rols eye: Do you mean good day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune82 Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 I used to regularly kill foxes at 400 yards plus with my .177 GAT gun. They never even flinched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 I used to regularly kill foxes at 400 yards plus with my .177 GAT gun. They never even flinched. I hope that was with a little feathered dart? The corks are only good to about 200 yards and the pellets struggle after 300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 I hope that was with a little feathered dart? The corks are only good to about 200 yards and the pellets struggle after 300 I had more joy at that range with a peice of rolled up chewing gum. The trajectory was much flatter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 You know i find the blowpipe effective to 1000 yards However catapoults are only good for 400, based on this logic airgun at 2000 yards a wee bit of holdover and a piece of cake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ****** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 anyone thought that this had been a typo in press? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 MM, I have got to ask, where do you find all of these pictures. I love the posts with the text and pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heladoxa Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 I had more joy at that range with a peice of rolled up chewing gum. The trajectory was much flatter If you use little balls of Blu Tak you can stick them up like fridge magnets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heladoxa Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 anyone thought that this had been a typo in press? NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 NO do you mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 MM, I have got to ask, where do you find all of these pictures. I love the posts with the text and pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 (edited) ................ Edited February 7, 2010 by MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Back on topic then. I have not read the full article but would imagine it might have been less controversial if he had written something to the effect of shooting a fox in a cage or pen with a .22 air rifle. I read the page on this thread about what he says he used, and to be fair he never implied he used an FAC air rifle. Did he refer to it later in the topic? Whilst it would be preferable to use the most powerfull air rifle he could get for a fox in a cage if one had to be used at all - it's fair to say he does not have any licensing restrictions about the quarry shot with a sub 12ftlb rifle. Though protection of livestock might provide for use of an FAC air rifle if he was worried about repercussions of a lump of lead going somewhere. A pellet with a skirt on isn't likely to richochet far if it ever comes out the other side of a fox head. Let me put something forwards if I may. I don't have "fox" on my air or rimfire conditions. Were I to trap a fox in a chicken pen in suburbia, I wouldn't want to use a centrefire to despatch it - though my conditions might say I can if I had an open ticket. I'm not allowed to use the fac air nor rimfire, but there are no restrictions placed on a sub legal limit rifle and I want the fox to get dead. Time and place for everything like he said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 A 12 bore will kill foxes out to 50 yards and it doesn't necessarily have to be BB's. I consistently shoot them on fox drives with no. 2's. 2s are fine up to about 35 yards, I have BBs and 2s for the same purpose. 6s, under 25 yards only in my book. I have in the past patterned my Beretta on the side of a fox at 35 yards with 6s, head down to the rear of the front shoulder, twice, with 1/2 + 1/4. Shot it with a 6mm a few weeks later with the pellet wounds very festered, never again. Only one I have shot since with a 12 was at about 15 yards, came straight through a gun line in the middle of a big field on a pheasant drive. I think I have seen more web fights on air rifles and foxes than anything else, the question has essentially been answered so its probably time to call this thread done before any aggro breaks out. Thanks A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 (edited) We used to shoot foxes with a .22 R/F years ago on my Uncle Harry's farm because thats all we had. Even shot clean through the heart at close range they still run but hopefully don't get that far before they drop. They still usually need a shot through the head to depatch them. You can't easily head shoot a fox with a .22 R/F because the bullets richocet off their skulls (its true, I kid you not). A foxes skull is like a panzer tank, all curves and angles that deflect a bullet. Using an air rifle? Can't see it myself. However, lets just examine the other part of that article. He's talking about using a .270 for foxes. Why? Apart from the arguement that having one rifle for all your needs is cheaper than having several?. Again I can't see it myself. The .270 is a great deer calibre but I can't see any need for a heavier bullet at lower velocity for foxes. A very light bullet at high velocity is what you need. Edited February 7, 2010 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Vince, I don't doubt you may have seen one weird random occurrence, but I've shot plenty of foxes with a 22LR, and a headshot = dead fox, no messing. Heart shot doesn't always finish in one go but it doesn't take very long at all. Rimfire = head shot for me though, personal choice having tried both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted February 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Back on topic then. I have not read the full article but would imagine it might have been less controversial if he had written something to the effect of shooting a fox in a cage or pen with a .22 air rifle. I read the page on this thread about what he says he used, and to be fair he never implied he used an FAC air rifle. Did he refer to it later in the topic? Whilst it would be preferable to use the most powerfull air rifle he could get for a fox in a cage if one had to be used at all - it's fair to say he does not have any licensing restrictions about the quarry shot with a sub 12ftlb rifle. Though protection of livestock might provide for use of an FAC air rifle if he was worried about repercussions of a lump of lead going somewhere. A pellet with a skirt on isn't likely to richochet far if it ever comes out the other side of a fox head. Let me put something forwards if I may. I don't have "fox" on my air or rimfire conditions. Were I to trap a fox in a chicken pen in suburbia, I wouldn't want to use a centrefire to despatch it - though my conditions might say I can if I had an open ticket. I'm not allowed to use the fac air nor rimfire, but there are no restrictions placed on a sub legal limit rifle and I want the fox to get dead. Time and place for everything like he said? Would it kill it though dave ?? I dont think a non fac air rifle would penetrate a foxes skull and a boiler shot isnt going to carry on if it hits a rib. I have an air rifle non fac and may keep a fox this week and put one in its nut and find out where it goes It would be interesting to see what it does... Either way i dont think a firearms consultant that advises the NGO should be spouting off in a shooting mag about shooting foxes with an air rifle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Have you been on the vodka babs? and port Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunters_return Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Quote;; I don't have "fox" on my air or rimfire conditions. Were I to trap a fox in a chicken pen in suburbia, I wouldn't want to use a centrefire to despatch it - though my conditions might say I can if I had an open ticket. I'm not allowed to use the fac air nor rimfire, but there are no restrictions placed on a sub legal limit rifle and I want the fox to get dead. Essex would not put fox on my .22lr and they must have their reasons, so i would not shoot a fox with it as its not on my ticket. Saying that because there is no restrictions in place on sub air rifles means you can use them on anything opens a whole new can of worms. What pellet weight should i use for wild bore ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Vince, I don't doubt you may have seen one weird random occurrence, but I've shot plenty of foxes with a 22LR, and a headshot = dead fox, no messing. Heart shot doesn't always finish in one go but it doesn't take very long at all. Rimfire = head shot for me though, personal choice having tried both. Never had a rimfire bounce off a foxes head yet!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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