farmshooter Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 hello all, im getting another .22lr semi auto this time, but whats a good scope for it. basicly i have a nkikko stirling nighteater on my .223 and love it, but dont think its worth putting a 2oo quid scope on a .22 just for lamping. on my other .22 i have a hawke, and its not tthat good in comparison with my nikko also whats a good magnification for a .22lr thanks FS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxnet22 Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 i have a mtc viper on my .22 mate and it does the job.as will a 3-9x50 or similar try a simmons whitetail classic i find them suitable also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Hawke are pants IMO I have a £50 second hand 3-12x40 IR Walther on my 22LR lets face it, how often are you going to stretch it past 80 yds? does the job just fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Best you can afford I have a 4 x 32 lepold on my .22 brilliant scope but if you are lamping a lot you want illuminated cross hairs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 I like the Bushnell Elite 3200 4-12x40, but you can get a Bushnell Legend cheaper and still very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmshooter Posted March 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 cheers for the ideas guys, i have just ordered the gun so i shall have a look around for the scopes and see what i like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat g Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Hawke are pants IMO I have a £50 second hand 3-12x40 IR Walther on my 22LR lets face it, how often are you going to stretch it past 80 yds? does the job just fine Hmmm, not quite strictly true mate. I have a Hawke Frontier on my 22lr. Its Japanese built with Japanese glass and the quality of the optics is up there with some of the better scopes costing three or four times as much. Granted some of the entry level Hawkes may leave something to be desired but some of the range are more than acceptable. Honestly, don't knock em all . ATB Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Hawke Endurance 3.5 - 10 x 50 with the Map 8 Reticule designed for the 22lr. I have one on mine and its optics are perfectly acceptable given the use of a 22lr and if you have a rangefinder you can really make use of the Reticule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Hmmm, not quite strictly true mate. I have a Hawke Frontier on my 22lr. Its Japanese built with Japanese glass and the quality of the optics is up there with some of the better scopes costing three or four times as much. Granted some of the entry level Hawkes may leave something to be desired but some of the range are more than acceptable. Honestly, don't knock em all . ATB Pat Would tend to agree with Pat. I have a Hawke Nite-eye 3-9x50 IR on my .22lr and it does the job for the .22lr as the ranges are never usually anything more than 70 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipmoff Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 I have a 6x42 Schmidt & Bender on my .22lr. I used to have an MTC 3-12x44 Mamba on which is a good scope for the money, but I found that it nearly always stayed on 6x mag so when I could afford it I replaced it with the S&B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat g Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 I have a 6x42 Schmidt & Bender on my .22lr. I used to have an MTC 3-12x44 Mamba on which is a good scope for the money, but I found that it nearly always stayed on 6x mag so when I could afford it I replaced it with the S&B. Valid point. have to say that i generally have the mag on mine set at between 6-7 mag. Its a good argument for fixed mag scopes . S&B's are fine scopes, up there with the best of the best IMO. I had a fixed mag S&B one on my .308 some time ago,8x56 it was. I don't own the rifle and scope now as i sold it,wish i had,nt now . ATB Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat g Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 (edited) I have a 6x42 Schmidt & Bender on my .22lr. I used to have an MTC 3-12x44 Mamba on which is a good scope for the money, but I found that it nearly always stayed on 6x mag so when I could afford it I replaced it with the S&B. Valid point. have to say that i generally have the mag on mine set at between 6-7 mag. Its a good argument for fixed mag scopes . S&B's are fine scopes, up there with the best of the best IMO. I had a fixed mag S&B one on my .308 some time ago,8x56 it was. I don't own the rifle and scope now as i sold it,wish i had,nt now . ATB Pat Oooops posted twice Edited March 29, 2011 by pat g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 (edited) hello all, im getting another .22lr semi auto this time, but whats a good scope for it. basicly i have a nkikko stirling nighteater on my .223 and love it, but dont think its worth putting a 2oo quid scope on a .22 just for lamping. on my other .22 i have a hawke, and its not tthat good in comparison with my nikko also whats a good magnification for a .22lr thanks FS You will never get any criticism from me for fitting the best scope you can run to on any rifle, but put simply, if you have a problem with your scope lamping you need a better lamp, not a better scope! Edit ALL my scopes are variable, 3-12 works, or 4-16 top whack on a .22lr. Objective size is largely dependant on glass quality..40-50mm MAX. Personal view of course, there are those, and a few of them, that use 26-28-30x Mag on their Air Rifles at 35 yards Edited March 29, 2011 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drut Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 I have a 6x42 Schmidt & Bender on my .22lr. I used to have an MTC 3-12x44 Mamba on which is a good scope for the money, but I found that it nearly always stayed on 6x mag so when I could afford it I replaced it with the S&B. I find a 6 x 42 also ideal: no faffing about with PA & good field of view.In my case a Meopta(bought s/h)with a 4A reticle which with a 50yd zero gives me lines for 75 & 100yds.Good quality of optics & fine reticle make 6x enough for me,but I found the 3.5x10 Simmons Whitetail Classic which it replaced had a much easier to see reticle when used with a lamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 8x is a lot of mag on a .22 4x is not too small though and 6X is in the middle of the two so i say ge a 6x and split the difference. Exit pupil on a 6x works out at the optimum 7 using a 42mm objective, qualty of glass matters far more though than the numbers though so select that in preference. It's also not worth a jot having the brightest scope if you cant make out the darn reticule in low light or loose track of it in the cover, illuminated are not all they are cracked up to be unless we are talking nightforce etc. so get a std cross or 4a type with a decent wire thickness (this all says s+b don't it now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 MTC Mamba and it is great gives me an extra 20 mins shooting over my Hawke that it replaced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Meopta,(7x50) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 I have to say though, I have a hawke that came with my .223 andshot a few beasties at low light with it. I have to agree with make then reticule and not to go higher than 7X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipmoff Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 MTC Mamba and it is great gives me an extra 20 mins shooting over my Hawke that it replaced I had the Mamba on my .22 before I put the S&B on. My mate tried my gun one night and commented how much better the MTC was compared to his Hawke. They are a good scope for the money, but with the S&B I get more time without a lamp than I would with the Mamba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) I've been through a few on my LR - tried a couple of WTC's and I know a lot of people love them but I didn't rate either - probably just me. The Hawke Endurance 30IR was good, the IR is a single dot on the front focal place which is very handy but it wasn't great in low light (fine for lamping though). Also had a Hawke MAP Pro on there, which I found quite well suited to the LR, right sort of mag range, pretty good in low light and parallax adjustable. However, I've come round to the fixed mag way of thinking and all mine now are 6x except the one on the HMR which is just too good to change. I had a Leupold M8 6x36 on there for a bit (it's now on my FAC Air) which is a cracking scope and never had a parallax problem when lamping as if your head wasn't dead centre to the scope you would get a very dull image, lovely and bright when your head was aligned properly though so it solved any errors that might occur. I currently have a Lisenfeld Spezial 6x42 on there and despite the crosshairs being a little thicker than I'd ideally like, it's one hell of a scope. Took 2 rabbits last week at 114yards with it and it holds up in low light as well as my S&B or Zieler. Edited March 30, 2011 by Colster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadioles Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 As an aside, one reason for using high magnification with side focus/parallax on air rifles (up to 32x) is for range finding. The high magnification gives a narrow depth of focus. Max 16x works well on a .22LR as rabbit heads are magnified big enough for clear head shots at 100 yards. I have Nikon Monarch 32x on my HMR which does mean that I can make out the holes in a target at 100 yards + but if I was buying again I would get 24x. I do not get on with illuminated cross hairs and leave mine switched off, sometimes the dimmest setting can be useful but not often (Nighteater). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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