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the police definitely need to adjust their tactics and take it easy.

 

after all slowly slowly catchy monkey :lol:

 

You are not allowed to call them monkeys you are a racist for saying it and its all your fault. According to them. There are as many different communities in North London as you have fingers on both hands. Only one complains constantly about how its all unfair and not their fault, its racism and police victimisation. That should tell you something, How come the Indians, the Jews, the Greeks, the Turks and all the rest just get on with it, work hard and make something of their lives? Not dealing drugs and running in street gangs.

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How come the Indians, the Jews, the Greeks, the Turks and all the rest just get on with it, work hard and make something of their lives? Not dealing drugs and running in street gangs.

 

 

Good strong family values?

 

Some of the above that I've had the pleasure of meeting and working with have had family at the core of everything and their parents have driven them to succeed by trying to better themselves through education.

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It's been proven incorrect today in Salford.

 

Yes, OK you’re right about Manchester/Salford. The point I made only rings true for: Tottenham, Tottenham Hale, Woodgreen, Enfield, Islington, Oxford Circus, Ponders End, Walthamstow, Stratford, East Ham, Bethnal Green, Camden, Ealing, Woolwich, Peckham, Lewisham, Bromley, Croydon, Clapham, Uxbridge and Barking in the London area, plus Bristol, Liverpool, Birmingham and Nottingham.

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Yes, OK you’re right about Manchester/Salford. The point I made only rings true for: Tottenham, Tottenham Hale, Woodgreen, Enfield, Islington, Oxford Circus, Ponders End, Walthamstow, Stratford, East Ham, Bethnal Green, Camden, Ealing, Woolwich, Peckham, Lewisham, Bromley, Croydon, Clapham, Uxbridge and Barking in the London area, plus Bristol, Liverpool, Birmingham and Nottingham.

 

I take your point but mine is that depressed areas are more susceptible to these problems than more affluent ones, for London that typically means areas of high ethnicity but that does not apply everywhere.

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I take your point but mine is that depressed areas are more susceptible to these problems than more affluent ones, for London that typically means areas of high ethnicity but that does not apply everywhere.

 

There are plenty of areas in Gr London that are economically depressed, but they're not all kicking ten bells out of their local Curry's, PC World or Footlocker. I was born and brought up in Hounslow, West London; which is not an area said to be dripping in wealth, but has high unemployment and a huge ethnic population, all be it Asian rather than Afro-Caribbean. Simply ignoring unpleasant facts is what has brought us to the current situation and does no community favours in the long run.

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These looters are nothing but a pack of animals, with the proportionate cunning of their ilk. That means they are attuned to playing the system, whether by dole scrounging or petty thievery.

 

In this case, their animal cunning was given free rein when the police did not immediately send in the dogs and horses to re-educate them. The liberal bleating about riot control since the G20 conference has affected the police's desire to hand out a bit of stick. I blame the likes of Shami Chakrabarti of Liberty, who naively criticises rozzers for preventing this sort of thing by kettling and the mounted division. The trouble is, once the scum sense any weakness, they will take advantage. I notice that we have not been hearing her pontificating on the subject of the rights of looters to grab some hookey trainers of the last couple of days.

 

I am also tired of hearing how the areas affected are poor and the inhabitants are only trying to be heard. What rubbish: I suggest that the areas are left in their current state to teach them all a lesson in civic pride. Tough luck on those who did not participate in the riot: perhaps they will start grassing up the local criminals rather than protecting them by turning a blind eye to all the other crime that goes on. Instead, reinvest the money in the police, who will have more bodies to stamp on the vermin when they next get out of line.

 

Personally, I would ship all the unemployed /disaffected/oppressed/whatever to Scotland and then get London & South East England and the Northern England grouse moors to declare independence! The Scotch can keep the oil revenues(!), we keep all our subsidies and become a city-state financial hub like Singapore. We're all happy - no vermin clogging up the suburbs in London, so they'd be lots of nice areas for workers to re-colonise and the great unwashed to like to riot can ponce off the Scotch government, who pretty much do the same of the English parliament at the moment.

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Ive listened to some of them being interviewed. :lol: What makes us such different people? Why is it, that most of us can act in a normal way, showing respect for other people and their property, yet these oiks sound like uneducated fools. Whos fault is it that they have no job? Do you become a brain surgeon by chance? No, hard work and effort it what gets you forward in life. You cant blame the government for everything. One of them tried to blame the big shops and workers!!! :lol::lol: "its their fault" REALLY? :huh: They have not got a clue, they really aint. Its not a protest against anything, its just theft and destruction en mass. Let the police dogs off, bite the silly ******** on the *** and see if the still want to throw bricks. :yp:

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They don't think they'll be caught and don't think they'll be adequately punished if they are prosecuted.

 

Bring back the birch, hanging and transportation!

 

 

What, you are going to hang them, then flog them and then transport them to Oz? Why ship dead bodies?? :P

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Compulsory sterilisation of anyone caught involved in the rioting and looting in any of the cities where we have had problems. This then may reduce the number of these parasitic underclass scum who think the world and the government owe them a living just because their slag of a mother pushed them out after sleeping with Wayne/kelvin/Dwayne and god knows however many other pimps and crack dealers in order to get more child benefit or to force the council to move them to a 6 bedroom detached mansion and pay for them all to go on holiday to the Caribbean and bring back 4000 illegal cigarettes and 2kg of coke in their overly stretched holes...

 

As all of the rioter scum who have been interviewed by the press (why give them a voice is beyond me) has illustrated that they can barely string a sentence together, the gene pool of the UK would benefit substantially if they were never allowed the procreate.

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Compulsory sterilisation of anyone caught involved in the rioting and looting in any of the cities where we have had problems. This then may reduce the number of these parasitic underclass scum who think the world and the government owe them a living just because their slag of a mother pushed them out after sleeping with Wayne/kelvin/Dwayne and god knows however many other pimps and crack dealers in order to get more child benefit or to force the council to move them to a 6 bedroom detached mansion and pay for them all to go on holiday to the Caribbean and bring back 4000 illegal cigarettes and 2kg of coke in their overly stretched holes...

 

As all of the rioter scum who have been interviewed by the press (why give them a voice is beyond me) has illustrated that they can barely string a sentence together, the gene pool of the UK would benefit substantially if they were never allowed the procreate.

 

Sorry, no can do..... it is their human right to have kids even more stupid than themselves :angry:

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I have just received a 'reassuring' e-mail from the county police force explaing what they are doing here and how they have already intercepted messages on social networking sites trying to organise local riots - apparently.

The e-mail also explained that the police had contingency plans in the event that rioting broke out.

 

I would copy my response but I wont bore you.

 

I said I was amazed they thought it necessary to reassure the public - they are the police - just get on with it, we rely on them.

I said I wasnt happy with the response elsewhere - innocent people suffering whilst police watched as property burnt. No criticism of individual police on the streets but the command and control structure just didnt seem to want to take risks for our benefit.

As to contingency plans I said if they didnt have them - God help us, isnt planning an essential part of the job?

15 years ago the police just did their job and we were all grateful, now we have to be reassured and they have to explain how good they are before anything has happened.

 

Our society really depresses me at the moment. I think we are all going to have to do our bit to change it to what we want - join the SC's or whatever we can.

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I'm a bit fed up with this "deprived area" rubbish. Most of these areas were once affluent, respectable places but you can't keep them that way if the residents refuse to work either at school or in the workplace.

 

The "system" is partly to blame, it has told people that there is no "pass" or "fail", that everyone has the "right" to what they want, work is not essential. Coupled to this is a benefit culture that positively encourages single mothers and an ethnic minority which seems to consider absent fathers as normal.

 

I just watched a Sikh on TV, saying that "if they come into our territories we will drive them out".

 

Could there be a better example of the failure of multi-culturalism ? I don't think so.

 

Stop the experiment now, it doesn't work, it never will.

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