Dr W Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I see another burglar has been shot by a homeowner with a shotgun. He's currently been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder and in custody. Will get off? I hope so as the Govt were previously saying that you should have right to defend yourself in your own home. Link to BBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glensman Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I see another burglar has been shot by a homeowner with a shotgun. He's currently been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder and in custody. Will get off? I hope so as the Govt were previously saying that you should have right to defend yourself in your own home. Link to BBC If he had have killed the effer he would have got a jury trial. I'd like to think a jury would find you not guilty on that one. They did When Pauric McNally shot Frog Ward in Ireland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northeastshooter Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 doesnt say anything about him have a sgc and when you read "A man has been held on suspicion of attempted murder and the cultivation of controlled drugs. A cannabis cultivation operation was found at a property in Whitbourne." do you reali think it was legal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSPUK Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 How can they call it attempted murder - if he was shot above groin then possibly yes. Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr W Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Sorry I read the news in the Metro and just found a link to BBC. In the Metro it talks about Mr White (in his 60's) watching TV with his wife heard someone breaking in and so got his shotgun and fired. It also said that all the villagers supported Malcolm. Doesn't sound like a drug baron to me. I guess more news came out after the Metro was printed but it's very strange, interesting to see what happens with this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I suspect that there is a little more to this than meets the eye! At the moment the papers are only giving us fairly scant details but if the "shooter" was (As the news article is suggesting) involved in "cultivating cannabis" then I doubt if he will get off with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr W Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I guess it depends whether it was a few plants for his own consumption perhaps to combat arthritis or whether it was large scale production to sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 The little toe-rag won't be doing it again, and that's the main thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 something to bear in mind is that his response must be proportional to the threat. if he was worried enough for his safety to shoot a man then why shoot him in the leg? even in America with the castle laws you aren't allowed to shoot to wound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northeastshooter Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 yes but if hes paniced and quickly fired then he might not of had time to aim and just fired. but on the other hand were the police called before he loaded his shotgun if he had time to unlock the gun and load it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 These debates always interest me. I can't imagine in all likelihood many law-abiding SGC holders could manage to go and get their cabinet keys, locate their cartridges, take out their gun, (change choke etc ) and then shoot a burglar, all in the space of the few seconds reaction time you would no doubt have in a situation like that. The only scenario I can imagine is if I got burgled on a Sunday afternoon when I was cleaning my gun. And even then, I would probably be more likely to bang them over the head with the barrels if I could, than actually pop them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northeastshooter Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 i dnt own a shot gun but when i get home will try with my airrifles ( as there locked away) lie in bed jump up unlock and get a pellet readi cant see the time been that far away from and shot gun lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 OK, PW competition time! Actually this isn't a good idea is it??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Why would it have to take only a few seconds if you was in your bedroom and that is where you keep your shotgun if you was to hear someone moving about down stairs. What would you do it would not take long to unlock the gun safe and load it before venturing down stairs or do you just go down stairs unarmed and just hope that the intruder dos not have a knife or gun. Then you could always go down and have a look and then run upstairs and hope that you can get your gun out and loaded before you get attacked or killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjimlad Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 This does not look the same as a householder defending himself against physical attack in the home, at the moment. Bit stupid of an SGC holder (if he is one) to have a substantial cannabis growing operation at home ! You never know when the police might be round or what might happen to provoke a police visit. There will be many unanswered questions here : - 1. Did he report the shooting/attempted theft of his car? 2. Was he shooting to protect his property or human life ? If the former, then that's not really self-defence, is it ? So it's definitely one to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 hmm this could be another "Tony Martin" case, alot more to it than the papers or BBC say is my guess. A man has been held on suspicion of attempted murder and the cultivation of controlled drugs. A cannabis cultivation operation was found at a property in Whitbourne. Another man in his 20s was arrested on suspicion of burglary. The shot man is being treated in Worcestershire Royal Hospital for gunshot wounds to his leg. He remains in a serious but stable condition. He has not been arrested as medical procedures were being carried out, West Mercia Police said. A woman in her 50s has been arrested on suspicion of cultivating controlled drugs. 3 people got arrested one in hospital 2 for drugs, one for burglary, one for attempted murder? Reads more like some one tried to rip someone else off for their drugs/cash than innocent old couple burgled by yoots and defending themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 wonder what his FLO would say about the weed??? thats if its a legal gun but as many have said think more to the story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Isn't this the plot from Lock, Stock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr W Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 It's certainly not an old guy growing a few plants for himself; Investigations into a shooting have uncovered a "well-organised, large-scale cannabis cultivation operation", police have said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 If it is druggie on druggie,the more it happens the better it is. Like the travellers in my area we regularly hear of gunshots between themselves.Fighting over clothes peg and lucky heather areas I suspect?Leave them to it IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 If anyone asks for a 'How many burglars are shot by PW members' stickie, the answer is no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 And was there a big ole mumma that said something along the lines of :>> “The yoots of t-day ain’t got nuffin betta to do”! And in the style of Bo Selecta did she then go: >> “Aooww “>> >>> “Mother ******” with a snap of the fingers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 I can't imagine in all likelihood many law-abiding SGC holders could manage to go and get their cabinet keys, locate their cartridges, take out their gun, (change choke etc ) and then shoot a burglar, all in the space of the few seconds reaction time you would no doubt have in a situation like that. I don't know. My keys are always in my pocket and there is an open box of cartridges on top of the gun safe. If I spot a Squirrel in the garden my response time is pretty bloody quick - if someone was breaking into my house I recon it would be even quicker! If anyone asks for a 'How many burglars are shot by PW members' stickie, the answer is no. Oh go on! Please?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch66 Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 (edited) The little toe-rag won't be doing it again, and that's the main thing. Dam right, anyone prepared to break into your house & rob you deserves to lose there knee caps, I wouldnt hesitate & he or she would get both barrels Edited October 8, 2011 by mitch66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 I heard the chap detained for attempted murder had been released without charge. It may be simple defence - havent heard anything about 'weed'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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