Chard Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 What's a Shugborough Shuffler There are a number of CPSA registered shooters who just shuffle between Shugborough and Kingsley Moor. They get a good high average, because they get used to shooting these grounds, but are usually incapable of getting similar scores elsewhere. Having said that, I shamelessly use Shugborough to keep my average decent, as it is a ground where high scores are very achievable. I don't think it's an "easy" ground, but it's not a ball-breaker either. I think everybody includes a few shoots at their "favourite" grounds, because they know they'll get a good score. Anybody that tells me otherwise is a ******* ********ter I certainly don't think it's a waste of 100 shells, it's a nice shoot on a very nice ground, and there's always one or two targets that **** up the big hitters, so it's not that easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Ah I see, thanks for the explanation. I must confess that they are my local grounds and I tend to shoot there most for geographical reasons more than anything. Having only been shooting for 18 months wherever I shoot is difficult!! I am starting to travel further afield as I realise you need to do this to ensure, as you say, you can put in reasonable scores at a variety of shoots. For the first year or so I only shot at Doveridge and I did get used to the targets and got to a point where I thought I was quite good. Then I joined the CPSA and started shooting other grounds and realised how pants I actually was!!! I shot Catton a few weeks ago with Nicky T and loved the place, hope to go back soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky T Posted November 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 I agree with Chard in the fact that Shugborough is far from a foregone conclusion; you still have to build a big score there. Really glad that we chose to get out on the circuit about 18 months ago as we've shot some great grounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrapFiller Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Going to be my first shoot at a "proper" shooting ground. looking forward to a day full of **** taking and laughs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Just sent my entry in this morning. Really enjoyed the British Open and I'm looking forward to going back. What else do you do between Christmas and New Year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSPUK Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 To anyone who will be there tomorrow bring your winter gear - today it has rained all day with strong gusts of wind -- Forcast for tomorrow is even worse -- I will turn up but it depends on weather if I shoot it, even though I have paid. The woodburner is shut right down at moment but wind is drawing it like hell - getting through wood like no tomorrow and it is sealed well. dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky T Posted December 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Come on Dave - sort out the elements for us; no wind or rain, but cold will do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthitathing Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 To anyone who will be there tomorrow bring your winter gear - today it has rained all day with strong gusts of wind -- Forcast for tomorrow is even worse -- I will turn up but it depends on weather if I shoot it, even though I have paid. The woodburner is shut right down at moment but wind is drawing it like hell - getting through wood like no tomorrow and it is sealed well. dave PAH!! It'll be light dizzle compared to the Polar storm we had at Lupton . I shall wear a T shirt and flip flops and laugh at Chards miserable mush :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky T Posted December 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 PAH!! It'll be light dizzle compared to the Polar storm we had at Lupton . I shall wear a T shirt and flip flops and laugh at Chards miserable mush :lol: Don't set him off any more; the journey down will be bad enough: "sandbagging this", "yickadiz that" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P~MX Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Just to let you guys who old Ron (Taylor) he goes into hospital in the morning early for an operation, it's a pretty big op so I for one would like to wish him ALL THE BEST, I spoke to him earlier and he's hopin to get it over and done with ASAP and get out again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Just to let you guys who old Ron (Taylor) he goes into hospital in the morning early for an operation, it's a pretty big op so I for one would like to wish him ALL THE BEST, I spoke to him earlier and he's hopin to get it over and done with ASAP and get out again. Please give Ron my best wishes. from Auntie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky T Posted December 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Just to let you guys who old Ron (Taylor) he goes into hospital in the morning early for an operation, it's a pretty big op so I for one would like to wish him ALL THE BEST, I spoke to him earlier and he's hopin to get it over and done with ASAP and get out again. If you speak to him again Nige, please pass on my best wishes Are you shooting Hodnet tomorrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSki Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 There are a number of CPSA registered shooters who just shuffle between Shugborough and Kingsley Moor. They get a good high average, because they get used to shooting these grounds, but are usually incapable of getting similar scores elsewhere. Having said that, I shamelessly use Shugborough to keep my average decent, as it is a ground where high scores are very achievable. I don't think it's an "easy" ground, but it's not a ball-breaker either. I think everybody includes a few shoots at their "favourite" grounds, because they know they'll get a good score. Anybody that tells me otherwise is a ******* ********ter I certainly don't think it's a waste of 100 shells, it's a nice shoot on a very nice ground, and there's always one or two targets that **** up the big hitters, so it's not that easy. Please forgive my silly question, I have never (yet) been a member of CPSA and I have never shot competitively. I am eagerly awaiting delivery of my SGC so that I can get my hands on my shiny new gun, so I am asking this in all sincerity - Is there any point in finding "easy" grounds in order to build your average up and climb the divisions to A or AA class, only to be thrashed by the more experienced and "true" AA class shooter at other comps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Just to let you guys who old Ron (Taylor) he goes into hospital in the morning early for an operation, it's a pretty big op so I for one would like to wish him ALL THE BEST, I spoke to him earlier and he's hopin to get it over and done with ASAP and get out again. Yes, give him my regards as well if you speak to him, and tell the old scrote to take it easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P~MX Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Please give Ron my best wishes. from Auntie. If you speak to him again Nige, please pass on my best wishes Are you shooting Hodnet tomorrow? Thanks for your messages about Ron, I will pass them on hopefully sometime at the end of next week. No Nick I'll not be over for Hodnet this time mate but hopefully I will in the summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Just to let you guys who old Ron (Taylor) he goes into hospital in the morning early for an operation, it's a pretty big op so I for one would like to wish him ALL THE BEST, I spoke to him earlier and he's hopin to get it over and done with ASAP and get out again. Pass on my best wishes a great guy with a sense of humour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timps Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Just to let you guys who old Ron (Taylor) he goes into hospital in the morning early for an operation, it's a pretty big op so I for one would like to wish him ALL THE BEST, I spoke to him earlier and he's hopin to get it over and done with ASAP and get out again. Please pass on my best wishes also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 To anyone who will be there tomorrow bring your winter gear - today it has rained all day with strong gusts of wind -- Forcast for tomorrow is even worse -- I will turn up but it depends on weather if I shoot it, even though I have paid. The woodburner is shut right down at moment but wind is drawing it like hell - getting through wood like no tomorrow and it is sealed well. dave Glad I treated myself to a new pair of wellies then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskymac Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Pass on my best wishes to Ron as well cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Potter Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Please forgive my silly question, I have never (yet) been a member of CPSA and I have never shot competitively. I am eagerly awaiting delivery of my SGC so that I can get my hands on my shiny new gun, so I am asking this in all sincerity - Is there any point in finding "easy" grounds in order to build your average up and climb the divisions to A or AA class, only to be thrashed by the more experienced and "true" AA class shooter at other comps? BobSki, That is a very insightful question and the answer is both Yes and No Regards Potter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Please forgive my silly question, I have never (yet) been a member of CPSA and I have never shot competitively. I am eagerly awaiting delivery of my SGC so that I can get my hands on my shiny new gun, so I am asking this in all sincerity - Is there any point in finding "easy" grounds in order to build your average up and climb the divisions to A or AA class, only to be thrashed by the more experienced and "true" AA class shooter at other comps? Don't know if this is the right or wrong answer, I went out the other day and was rubbish in the morning, so later on picked a easier stand and got 25 out 25. It got my confidance back up and shot well in the afternoon. So I would say use the easier grounds to build your confidance, but go to the better grounds as they bring out the challanges and gives you the experiance you need to climb the divisions if you want to get classified. I just shoot for the enjoyment of the clays, I do regualy shoot at the west mids shooting ground and while I have not shot in the competitions have shot some of the stands afterwoods. Tom puts on a good varaity of stands which encourages one to learn and the people who go there are also very helpful with good advice ho to shoot the stands better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthitathing Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Please forgive my silly question, I have never (yet) been a member of CPSA and I have never shot competitively. I am eagerly awaiting delivery of my SGC so that I can get my hands on my shiny new gun, so I am asking this in all sincerity - Is there any point in finding "easy" grounds in order to build your average up and climb the divisions to A or AA class, only to be thrashed by the more experienced and "true" AA class shooter at other comps? As far as i can tell in my limited time shooting registered shoots, unless you are already at AA+ standard, there is no such thing as an easy ground. I can fully understand why shooters of the calibre of Ed (Solomons) must get frustrated at the targets presented in everday registered shoots. It must be a fine line for grounds to tread, trying to make a shoot competetive for top class shooters and hittable for us mere mortals, thus keeping people paying to enter. In answer to your question, using "easy" shoots to bolster your class would be purely for vanity, and would not help you to achieve anything more than a slightly better letter against your name on the CPSA website. I can't really see the point as it's not a true reflection of your ability. Test yourself and you will improve, this way at least you'll know for sure the level of your ability. I've seen my average score rise over the last 8 months or so, made up from various registered events including the British open. That didn't look a tough shoot but I don't recall any of the people I shoot with putting in a particulary good score. No doubt they'll correct me on that To sum up, in my opinion, and I emphasise it's only my opinion, I would get out and shoot as many grounds as you can and get a class you can compete anywhere with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 To sum up, in my opinion, and I emphasise it's only my opinion, I would get out and shoot as many grounds as you can and get a class you can compete anywhere with. Bang on really. Averages can within reason be altered very easily to either get a higher class, or a lower class, depending on which way you want to progress. The best way to push yourself forwards is to shoot as many grounds as possible, making a point of visiting the ones you struggle with more often than the ones you are comfortable at. You get better by making mistakes, highlighting them and working on them so you raise your game up. A soft round can give you a pat on the back but that only lasts for a short period of time, and if done regularly damages your overall game. Plus of course, everyone else finds it easier, so all the scores go up, then you have less margin of error to win. A vicious cycle that is as broad as it is long. Ooh err. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSki Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 BobSki, That is a very insightful question and the answer is both Yes and No Regards Potter ROFL Well, that's as clear as mud then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 All the best to you Ron, you ******* old reprobate Thinking about you, chap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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