Fishermanpaddy Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 So this guy calls to my door and asks if I got the promo pack for some phone service which I already know I dont want (Never got any promo pack anyway), I politely say im not interested, say goodbye and go to close the door. But the fella seems to have a chip on his shoulder and says (In a very inpolite way) "What do you mean your not interested? I only asked you if you got the promo pack". He was quite annoyed that I didnt want to talk to him so I told him to beat it. Is it unreasonable to let someone know you dont want to be sold something on your doorstep off the bat? Maybe im a grumpy so and so. Let me know your thoughts and experiences please as im quite annoyed now and need to have a clear head for the morrow as its me first walk up day of the season for the pheasant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 I am with you on this If a polite no is not accepted then i'm afraid i am not so polite, after all it was your door thatthey choose to knock on, i am the same over the phone. Am i getting a grump in my old age It never used to happen in the olden days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TbirdX Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 (edited) I've had the same before now, rather than swear at them, which is what I'd end up doing, I just close the door. They tend to get the message then. We have adopted a policy in our household which is... "If they have to ask us, we don't need it..." Edited November 11, 2011 by TbirdX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unapalomablanca Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 You were completely within your rights to be grumpy, short, bolshie and uninterested. Its part of the territory for a cold caller and ive had these 'chip on the shoulder types'knock on my door. Although i dont believe anyone has the right to be downright nasty towards one or violent unless in self defence. He had no right to wind you up with the ludicrous tale of the promo pack and this is what probably got your back up. If he started intimidating you then you should have forcibly removed him or called the police. They knock to sell not to make war! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishermanpaddy Posted November 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 He had no right to wind you up with the ludicrous tale of the promo pack and this is what probably got your back up. Thanks guys, I guess I just felt guilty for losing the head (and the wife tellin me off) . Its comforting to know Im not the only one. Paloma I never even thought at the time that this was just a tactic to rope me in, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 I point stroppy callers to the end of my drive. I ask them politely to leave and add that I will use reasonable force to assist them if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 I point stroppy callers to the end of my drive. I ask them politely to leave and add that I will use reasonable force to assist them if necessary. On what grounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 I don't have a problem with cold callers knocking on our door because we are in a block of flats with security front and back doors which have a notice on them saying that clod callers will not be admitted. What I do have a problem with is the cold callers that phone us up. They always seem to phone just when we have settled down for our tea - sometimes three times an evening. We have a way of dealing with these, we just tell them that they will need to speak to either the man or the woman of the house (Depending on if it is me or the wife that answers the phone) and then put them on hold while we enjoy our meal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 we simply have a large sign at the door NO SALESMAN NO BIBLE BASHERS NO LEAFLETS DOGS WILL BITE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 I live on a small estate of bungalows amongst alot of elderley people, it has been designated a no cold calling area by the local plod and council, due to the vulnerability of most of the neighbours.I must get at least one salesperson per week calling on the knocker even though we all have stickers and a sign up at the estate entrance.I firstly ask them to read the sign on my door and advise them that i will be making a phone call and would they like to give me their company name.I have personally had to cancel a couple of cheques and let neighbours relatives aware of the bulling sales tactics of some of these companies when they have frightened some of my friends into signing up for things they didn't want.I would advise anyone in an area with elderly people to join in the sceme it certainly makes them dissapear fast. from Auntie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggins. Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Most of them are only trying to earn a few quid like the rest of us so i try not to be rude, more like assertive. The worst are probably those trying to get you to change utility companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Easiest thing is get a 'We're not buying it' sticker from the rozzers and place it on or near your door.Then when you get a cold caller you can be blatantly rude and ask them if they're freakin' blind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripey999 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Like stubby, I have a sign up stating No salesmen No charities No hawkers I put it up after one particulary pushy young woman wanted me to give a couple of quid a month to her charity. I give plenty straight from my salary to charities so dont want cold callers. When I mentioned this to her, she nodded over to my BMW and said "another £2 a month wouldnt hurt the bank would it?" I hit the roof and sent her packing. No callers since the sign went up (not even the Avon lady). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 (edited) UK Poacher - they are obliged to leave my property when asked to do so. Failure to comply entitles me to use reasonable force to assist them. Ex-Police should know that. Edited November 11, 2011 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 UK Poacher - they are obliged to leave my property when asked to do so. Failure to comply entitles me to use reasonable force to assist them. Ex-Police should know that. As I said before: "On what grounds?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 UK Poacher - you have a rare talent for seeking confrontation. You should know the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 UK Poacher - you have a rare talent for seeking confrontation. You should know the law. I know some law. Nobody knows it all. And you have a rare talent for talking ********. You have made a statement implying that you have a right to forcibly evict cold callers. I know of no law that say that you can. Now, please enlighten us all as to what powers, laws or rights that you think that you have to take hold of someone and forcibly escort them off your property. That's all I'm asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 (edited) As I said before: "On what grounds?" i believe trespass to land - interference would give a homeowner the ability to say that a cold caller/salesmans right to entry has expired and is therefore trespassing, which then leads to allowing reasonable force to get that person off your property, not that it should be needed. EDIT- should mention that only relly counts if the salesman is agressive or you consider yourself in danger. If they aren`t agressive or threatening you then i suppose you are down to calling the police but most salesman would just get huffy and move off. Edited November 11, 2011 by CZ550Kevlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Without wishing to be piggy in the middle UKPoacher-would'nt tresspass be enough if a stranger arrives,uninvited,onto your property and is reluctant to leave? Personally I always say the same thing-"If you're selling I dont want it-If you're giving it away iv'e already got it" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 UK Poacher - not for the first time - you seek confrontation. Sorry - I won't indulge you. A battle of wits would be a little one-sided. :yes: Have a nice day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 UK Poacher - not for the first time - you seek confrontation. Sorry - I won't indulge you. A battle of wits would be a little one-sided. :yes: Have a nice day. I'm glad that you have finally realised your limitations. I say that you have no legal power to physically escort anyone off your property in these circumstances. I also say that you have no power to take hold of a cold caller even if they are acting in a stroppy manner. I don't for a moment however think that you are a man who would even consider such an act. But, if you can actually provide the legislation that you think that I should be aware of I would be quite happy to consider it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Whether by phone or door to door, it's people trying to make a living so I always try and be polite and always feel bad for a while afterwards, just can't understand why they do it as the hit rate must be so incredibly low. We often get really attractive young girls cold calling from the local colleges holding their paintings and trying to talk themselves into the house, breaks my heart but I just flat refuse and feel so bad. Once I got a call at 2 am saying they were from the gas company responding to my earlier phone call!! I was in a daze as you can imagine, so I said what call? We are calling you back as requested (which I hadn't). Do you know the time I said? Yes came the reply :blink: . I VERY rarely use words like that in anger :lol: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 (edited) I'm with gordon on this, if I ask someone to leave my property and they don't do so I will use force, as I believe UK law allows! Edited November 11, 2011 by M.I.A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 This is going to turn into a home defence thread isn't it? Right, I like bird shot as it won't penetrate through walls. :lol: Seems reasonable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 M.I.A. - not surprisingly - I agree with you. As I understand the law - I have looked it up again since this thread started - reasonable force is permitted. Sadly, even people who might have been in the Police Force, seem to know little. Perhaps they are unaware of their own obvious limitations. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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