geordiepigeon Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 very embarrassing topic for me here guys. i shot myself in the foot on sunday 29/11/11 with a 17hmr rifle and have been in hospital ever since. i realise that im probably not the only one ever to have done this or worse but im sure not everybody would be as willing to tell the tale afterwards. i want to tell you my story to see if we can figure out where i went wrong although i have a fair idea of my own. on saturday 28/11/11 i went to bed around 10 oclock and set my alarm for 3 oclock. i got up and got my gear on, packed the car and set off to my mates house to go lamping. the reason for this is we had never tried early in the morning before and we were curious to see if there was any difference. any hoo, we set about our session and discovered that no there was no difference in the times (well not for rabbits anyway) both equally effective. by 7 oclock in the morning nearing dawn we decided to call it a day. this is were it gets gorey!!! when im carrying my gun when lamping i normally have my clip in my pocket, bolt in the gun, and gun over my shoulder on a sling . when im finished lamping its the same only il have the bolt in my pocket also. when i unload the gun its always the same procedure too il take safety off, pull bolt back catching the ejected round, lift the clip out and then pull the bolt right back and press the trigger to release it all while pointing the gun at the ground. so why this time did i shoot myself in the foot while doing a proceedure that i have done so many times before. after alot of head scatching myself and the doctor at the hospital have come to this conclusion. although i didnt feel tired that morning we think i was mentally tired causing me to muddle up the proceedure that really does become second nature to you of unloading the gun. unfortunately i cant confirm this as in the comotion and shock of this all i just cant be 100 percent sure no matter how many times i go over it in my head although it is the best explaination we can think of. he went on to mention that most acidents happen through tiredness and fatigue, for example a high percentage of car accidents will happen first thing in the morning when you think your body is working fine but your mind is still on autopilot. your thoughts would be greatly appreciated on this one guys. sorry for all the small print, im using one hand as i have a drip in the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 :o We need pictures Just how bad is the damage, I hate to think what would happen at point blank range. Doesn't bear thinking about really but still a good reminder to the rest of us. Hope you recover and don't get too much grief over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Dont know how you have done it, but i could not make a rifle safe with it pointing at me foot. hope you get well soon. just out of interest with it being a gun shot wound was the old bill involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Oooo nasty, hope you recover soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Dont know how you have done it, but i could not make a rifle safe with it pointing at me foot. hope you get well soon. just out of interest with it being a gun shot wound was the old bill involved. Thye have to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 1994 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 (edited) Agreed Pictures Good look with a speedy recovery aswell Imagine if it was a .243 :blink: Edited December 1, 2011 by Will 1994 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Get well soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiepigeon Posted December 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 old bill have the rifle at the minute. i have a reference number and have to phone them when i get home. they took a statement and were happy enough it was an accident. i have pics and il put them up when i get home also. i wouldnt class pointing the gun at your foot as safe either but if your are goin to make mistake and misfire **** law says thats were its goin to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Did it hurt at the time? Any lasting damage, nerves, tendons etc? Did you get full expansion of the bullet? If not I'd complain to Hornady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiepigeon Posted December 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 any of you know how to resize pictures as it says they are too large to post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmick11 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Good on you for being upfront and honest, I expect there are a few who have been near to doing what you have done and got away with it. All the best for a speedy recovery, and I'll bet you never even get close to doing it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiepigeon Posted December 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 definately got full expansion of the bullet. i must see if i can get a pic of the xray before i leave. very impressive. yeah it hurts like mad. yes there was alot of damage to bone, muscle and skin but the doctor is confident that it will heal up now they have operated on it twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Get well soon, accidents happen and thank god it doesn't appear to be super serious. Hope you can walk OK after recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigeonEater Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 can i call you cheddar bob? get well soon, hope theres no serious damage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camokid Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 you do no you will be the FOOT of all jokes. this little piggy had hmr. i bet your wellies leak now. i do feel for ya but also cant wait to see pics will they be under the sporting pics? all the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Firstly you clearly wernt pointing it at the floor being mindfull of the fact it was pointing at your foot, now thats obvoius. Now you said: "procedure too il take safety off, pull bolt back catching the ejected round, lift the clip out and then pull the bolt right back and press the trigger to release it all while pointing the gun at the ground." Is there any chance that when you did this part: "pull bolt back catching the ejected round, lift the clip out" Did you remove the mag or did you eject a round, fail to remove the mag and continue your sequence of returning the bolt and then pulling the trigger having cycled the next round into the chamber ! In future i would: * ensure safety is on * remove the mag * in a safe direction remove the safty * lift the bolt and slid to the rear catching the round * remove the bolt from the rifle * then relax the bolt (while its out of the rifle) ! ( i know this can be done on CZ`s, not sure what rifle you have though) It goes to show that tiredness is a dangerous thing and that people do get complacent which also leads to accidents. A steep learning curve indeed ! Get well soon and lets hope you get back to feild sports ASAP ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 You're doing well if you only got your FAC in July I thought you said you'd had years of experience shooing rimfire rifles before you applied?! Get those photos up A story like that isn't complete without a photo of a wellie with a hole in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Out of intrest what foot wear did you have on at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Foot must be a ticket condition also I guess and have a minimum cal and a season ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Well i must be doing some thing wrong. just spent 10 minutes trying to point a gun at me foot while i unload it, it can be done but i have to work at it. size 9 shoes by the way, and 14,18 and 21 inch barrels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Oh man! I was going to start this reply with a comment about being silly but no, it takes balls to admit to something like this so fair play to you! I assume you must have pulled the trigger as if removing the bolt, but before you'd lifted the handle? Whatever happened I'm sure you've learnt a painful lesson and luckily (well kind of) it wasn't any worse. I usually remove the mag before I unload. Can't see as it would have made a difference in your case though as I recon you simply pulled the trigger to early! It does reinforce my belief though that above all else, safety catches and whatever, muzzle awareness is the key to safety. You really shouldn't have had that thing pointing at your foot fella! Pictures would be good, and I hope you recover fully in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 So which is the best caliber for close range toes .22/.17 ?? Sorry mate, hope you heal up well. I bet it hurts like a rude naught act (got told off for 'not swearing' again ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiepigeon Posted December 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 trying hard to get the pics up for you but it wont let me put them up because they are too big. do any of you know how to resize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 (edited) trying hard to get the pics up for you but it wont let me put them up because they are too big. do any of you know how to resize. Don't resize! You'll make it too hard to see..! Visit http://tinypic.com and host the image there. Once uploaded the image will have a link. Paste the code into the body of your message Edited December 1, 2011 by Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 Glad you are ok mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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