P~MX Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 (edited) the following information from Alison from Weston Wood. "A sad day for shooting. Yesterday at Weston wood a miserable low life decided their need for the prize pot money was greater than yours. They stole the prize money envelope with over £2000 cash in it. We have a witness, we know who it is and expect them to do the right thing and return it. Post to Westfield Farm, Westfield Nr Notgrove, GL54 3BX. Alternatively maybe they would like to tell the kids why they aren't going on holiday this year as obviously we will honour the pot. The police have been notified but nothing further will be done if it is returned." Edited April 2, 2012 by P~MX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 I hope the money is returned, but I am not clear why they would just settle for that. It should be a Police matter - full stop. Thieves have no place in shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 (edited) I have to say that while very reasonable, sends out the wrong message. If somebody had stolen £2000 from my business then the least they deserve is a night at HMP and have their suitability for SGC/FAC questioned. Edited April 2, 2012 by Livefast123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 (edited) I have to say that while very reasonable, sends out the wrong message. If somebody had stolen £2000 from my business then the least they deserve is a night at HMP and have their suitability for SGC/FAC questioned. Absolutely. Why do businesses tolerate theft of sums like two g's just because someone returns it? And let's face it they're only going to return it (if they do) because they know they're bang to rights and you apparently have a witness. The intention to 'permanently deprive' must have been there, they weren't just 'looking after it' for you were they? "In my defence your honour, I didn't think I would get caught." H Simpson Edited April 2, 2012 by Thunderbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 I hope the money is returned, but I am not clear why they would just settle for that. It should be a Police matter - full stop. Thieves have no place in shooting. Because, I suspect, the alternative is a possible conviction and 24 hours community service and NO money back...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Yes, I think Steve is more concerned (quite reasonably) with getting the money back in his possession. He's covering the prize money from his own pocket in the meantime and £2k isn't small change. I'd quite like to see the perpetrator horse-whipped in the nearest market square, but I doubt that it would get the money returned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 I hope there will be a name and shame,so we can turn our back on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Bizarrely asking for goods or property to be returned "no questions asked" is a criminal offence under the Theft Act IIRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Here we go: Where any public advertisement of a reward for the return of any goods which have been stolen or lost uses any words to the effect that no questions will be asked, or that the person producing the goods will be safe from apprehension or inquiry, or that any money paid for the purchase of the goods or advances by way of a loan on them will be repaid, the person advertising the reward and any person who prints or publishes the advertisement shall on summary conviction be liable to a fine not exceeding one hundred pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Bizarrely asking for goods or property to be returned "no questions asked" is a criminal offence under the Theft Act IIRC Isn't that only if a reward is offered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 This just grabbed off Wiki, so who knows: Related offence Section 23 [6] of the 1968 Act creates an offence of "advertising rewards for the return of stolen goods".[1] This prohibits public advertising for the return of such goods stating that "no questions will be asked", or offering immunity from prosecution to the returner, or stating that any monies paid for the goods will be reimbursed. This is a summary offence but is rarely prosecuted. Thinking about it, it's technically money laundering... I digress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 It's a moot point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Is it not handling and money laundering given that the recipient is fully aware that the money is in fact stolen? I digress again. Anyways, I've no time for thieves - he wants his / her collar felt and his tickets perma gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P~MX Posted April 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 what about the other shootin grounds and clubs have they not the right to know who this low life is ? would you as a shooter in a squad would you not want to know there is a thief in your company who has no respect for you or your sport !! Name & Shame I say !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 On a sort of related note I've always wondered about the real meaning (or indeed the very existence) of the ability to (or to not) "press charges" (in a context like this one). I thought it was up to the rozzers and ultimately the CPS whether someone got done. So is saying "we won't press charges" effectively meaningless? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chady Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Why did this witness not say something at the time? If I'd seen some one steal some thing i would not just stand there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Why did this witness not say something at the time? If I'd seen some one steal some thing i would not just stand there.... Maybe it's just a bluff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Call the cops. No question. He's a thief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decoy1979 Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Why did this witness not say something at the time? If I'd seen some one steal some thing i would not just stand there.... Perhaps at the time they were unaware as to the contents of said envelope which(insert name here)was witnessed making off with or whether or not said person had any reason to be in possession of said envelope? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enumber Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Call the cops. No question. He's a thief. Or she! So summary execution is out of the question then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chady Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Well true but why would you leave 2000 lieing around that if some one was to pick it up it looked like they have the right to have it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caisterboy Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Personally, i believe in rehabilitation of offenders - i'm sure there are any number of us on here who would be only pleased to assist the miscreant in realising the errors of their ways in the old fashioned way behind the clubhouse I sincerely hope that all of the money is returned to you quickly. Caisterboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Get the Law in and prosecute. But now on the other site there is speculation that they don't know who it is and haven't got a witness???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Get the Law in and prosecute. But now on the other site there is speculation that they don't know who it is and haven't got a witness???? I just can't understand how £2000 can be left unattended where someone could get at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstone Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 And be wary of throwing out accusations or naming and shaming if you're not absolutely sure who the culprit is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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