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Which 28g 7.5 cartridges for pigeons


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This isn't a debate on ethics and whether or not we should or shouldn't be using them!!

 

Being a very recent convert I thought I'd start a thread on which cartridges in this weight and size are good, bad or indifferent, for use on pigeons. There are loads of similar threads for 6's and 5's, but I don't recall one debating 28g 7.5's.

 

So, for those who do use 28g 7.5 cartridges on the pigeons, which ones do you recommend?

 

I've made a couple of calls this morning and a slab (250) of Fiochi or Rio Claybusters are £37 and £37.50 respectively. Anyone have any experience with these?

 

 

Cos

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Claybusters kick like a mmule, steer well clear of them if you think you're going to do a long session. I recently got Eley First and Kent Velocity at £37.50 a slab, i'd recommend them both. Havent tried the Fiocchi 28g yet, but did use some Fiocchi 30g 5's on saturday and wasnt overly impressed with them tbh.

 

AB

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kents are fine and are pretty good value for money really for what you get they do vary from batch to batch on the turnover and crimp so deffo worth checking before you leave the shop if your using a semi auto, but in the last 8 months not had a square edge one tbh..... i like using them through full choke for more pellets on the bird seems to do the trick to 35yards humanely.... dont like fiochhi's tbh just dont seem the same quality of cartridge as the kent and ive seen loads of misfires with them at the clay ground.. hull comp x arnt to bad and are super smooth. black gold are black gold say no more but do no worse than kents imho. may aswell buy 32g of 6's for there price though...

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I am a recent convert to 7.5x28gm's and have used Cheddites via our very own NickyT.

If I remember correctly they were £165.00 per 1000.

I enjoyed good results and will be giving them another bash this evening.

 

Cheers

 

Terry

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i`m in the "use minimum 6s" camp, but would like to chime in.

 

some clay loads are very limp, and are obviously designed not to be used on pigeons. having said that, at a pinch i`d use some punchy 7.5 if i have to.

 

you should really ask your self, why cant the manufacturers load up a 1oz #6 ? they wont because it will be in direct competition with the other higher profit pigeon cartridges.

 

thats a fact.

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I have a huge amount of experience with this particular load on pigeons. Some continental 7.5 loads are actually a Uk 7 or very near a 7. For a while i used mostly Smi Smini (Italian), which were just over £3 a box only 2 years ago. These are actually a UK 7 and come highly recommended - i just can't find them anymore. Then there are Kent velocities. These are currently around £38 a slab and i find them very effective.

My current favourites, though, are Rio target loads. These are 2.37mm shotsize and they are a great little cartridge which i have a lot of confidence in.They are around £4 a box at the moment.

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kents are fine and are pretty good value for money really for what you get they do vary from batch to batch on the turnover and crimp so deffo worth checking before you leave the shop if your using a semi auto, but in the last 8 months not had a square edge one tbh..... i like using them through full choke for more pellets on the bird seems to do the trick to 35yards humanely.... dont like fiochhi's tbh just dont seem the same quality of cartridge as the kent and ive seen loads of misfires with them at the clay ground.. hull comp x arnt to bad and are super smooth. black gold are black gold say no more but do no worse than kents imho. may aswell buy 32g of 6's for there price though...

 

 

Can you define “smooth” as a round must have a certain amount of energy to propel the shot to over 1200/1400 fps!

To achieve that speed the powder must push the charge forward and the gun backwards…so where does the “smooth” part come into play

 

 

 

TEH

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Can you define “smooth” as a round must have a certain amount of energy to propel the shot to over 1200/1400 fps!

To achieve that speed the powder must push the charge forward and the gun backwards…so where does the “smooth” part come into play

 

 

 

TEH

 

Cookoff is probably better placed to answer this, but i understood that it's the way the powder burns. Quick burning powder produces more recoil, slower smoother burning powder doesnt.

 

AB

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I've used quite a few different trap loads on pigeon and yes they kill well enough. There are lots of foreign loads that are actually English size 7. Old Archie Coats used to recommend 1 and a sixteenth of No 7 in his Grand Prix for decoying, so modern 1oz trap loads labelled 7.5 shot aren't a mile out are they?

However give me 32g of English No 6 any day of the week. I've also shot quite a few pigeon with the Hull FITASC and Gamebore 6.5 shot loads and they are very good but pricey.

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from your local choices cos, i would try both a slab of the kent and the hull super fast and see which you prefer. of course i am slightly biased as i come from hull, but i have used both of these shells and for the money are excellent through 1/2 or 3/4 choke. if you can get the super fast in 29gm 6 at that money then even better. give either of these shells a go. you won't be dissapointed. aga man.

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