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Doesnt ring a bell fella but maybe a different era.Had a few Streamers attached,and two instructors at Pirbright,Sgt Weatherall,i think Dave?,and a big ******* L/sgt Dinger Bell,scarred all down his face from a knife if i remember rightly and one hard fella,but very fair with it and a top bloke.Maybe ring a bell with you?Seemed to dissapear very quickly and rumour was SAS but we never knew.

 

Yep remember both of them,two decent chaps :good: enjoyed my 22 with the coldstream,met some crazy characters along the way :good: but would do it all again at the drop of a hat,BRB was the right choice for me :good: BB

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Same here fella,and nothing wrong with banter between regiments as we were all doing the same job at the end of the day.Was attached to 3RRF during the first gulf and can honestly say they were the best bunch of lads you could ask for.Great to get rid of the bull for a while but again great to get back to it.All troops now are earning their colours and cant be faulted.

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I don't see the problem, Apache pilots are high value targets, regardless of who flies them? They are a thorn in the enemy's side? Harry was a forward air controller, he got quite close to the enemy to call in air support? All credit to him. He has spent years training, flying hours?! They wouldn't allow him lose just because of who he is?! Crab air? Hes Army Air Corp. Give the guy a break.

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Cynic is what i would say, remember he has already been out there once, but that did not come out until after he was back. We let our press know too much sometimes.

His behaviour was not what one woudl expect of an officer and a member of the Royal Family but give him his due.

 

I would say he is a hardened professional and again, how do you know he has not seen limbs and intestines, sorry Mike but your cynical comments seem almost troll like.

 

Were you/are you a hardened professional? been there, seen it , done it? If so then you have my respect and admiration, if not than it proves the troll theory

 

Bang on Poontang.

 

 

My FST Party took over from his FST when he was a JTAC on OPH8 in Garmsir (JTAC Hill) and the same insurgent activity carried through OPH8 from OPH7 and i can assure you he saw plenty of Contacts and will have seen the BDA afterwards.

 

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Until you sign on the line u can't say **** in my books. I did, wasn't for me but I gave it a bash. At the end of the day bastion is a small city in a desert, well protected and Mile's from anywhere hence the airframes launch from there. When he's raining down the **** on the enemy in his 40 million chopper and saving our boys while .getting shot at with all sorts including some interesting Iranian toys I dont think the lads will be moaning.

They don't let oxygen thieves pass the course to fly those and I'm a little annoyed with the class war here.s for putting others in harms way get a ******* grip it a war zone. My mates think he's a hero and they are there now that's good enough for me, and no they are not remf

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:lol: all done with smoke and mirrors, ....I will get closer to an Afghan at local dog pound than Harry boy...

two chances him seeing any action nil and zero.

 

Total tosh, if his unit is tasked to support the boys on the ground he along with the rest of them will be right in there. I do hope you are right that he will not get too close to a hostile afghan considering the effective range at which he will be engaging any enemy.

 

I will say however that every sam missile they have will now be out and ready every time an Apachie is in the air. They will take maga chances to be able to knock one out of the sky.

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hi mike n billy . in for a soft ride is he . well lets see how big yours are . go and sit at the side of him

 

And do you genuinely believe he will be exposed to even the slightest possible danger whatsoever....two chances nil and zero... Im not knocking him far from it... but he needs to decide if he wants a genuine career in the Army or as a payrolled playboy Royal. Top Army Brass have already had him in after the Vegas debacle and chewed his balls off a bit so I would imagine they were far from happy about the escapades of a Commisioned Officer in public let alone a member of the Royal Family.

 

Would any other commision rank have got off so lightly, particularly one given so much responsibility....I think not...

 

This topic has degenerated somewhat into a vexatious mud slinging match between what seems Royalists and Republicans so to answer the original question.... No I think its bad... Royals should not be put at risk in Military conflict under any circumstances.

 

And for the record.. OK so Andrew was at the Falklands however even the slightest sign of potential Argentinian attack he was generally bundled into a helicopter and flown to the other side of the Island.

 

Its a hard enough job to keep the regulars safe without having to worry about a brave young buck trying to bury his past discretions by bumping up a bit of kudos.

 

Thats all from me on the subject...

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same as you then FM its pretty distasteful trying to discredit someone working in a war zone, ok you will have your views but in this case its almost better to keep them to yourself.

 

Like I said ...Honi soit qui mal y pense

 

neither of you have contributed anything tangiable to the topic just criticised vexatiously opinions you dont agree with thats real Trollism my friend...

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who cares , its the job he chose

 

precisely and one he refused to complete training if he wasn't going to be deployed. After his first trip out it was clear he couldn't be on the ground so he chose the apache route as being one where he could help and not be a significant risk.

 

Next we'll be hearing its a figment that he is capable of flying one and its a look alike or such tripe

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i know someone who served in the navy with Prince Andrew he was there and not just as a token.........he doesn't like the bloke but he fought .

 

no other army officer would have been news worthy so it wouldn't have made the papers......army officer pulls some american birds and gets naked, wouldn't make the papers unlike prince harry doing the same

 

good luck to him

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I see now why FM has made a separate post but in everyone's defence, this will always come down to class and pro/anti Royalist. FM, when you read your posts, they do seem phrased in order to be inflamatory. I'm sure they were not meant to be but that's the way they read.

 

I also think that beacause FM didn't seem to answer the question about his own experiences, this added to the perception of trolling.

 

Only my opinion and i still stand by my comment on the new thread started by FM in that i might not like what he says but he has the right to say it.

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Im fairly confident hell be doing some hard graft out there. Apache pilots by the very nature of their training arent 2 a penny. The Taliban would love to bring an Apache down. Theyve been trying unsuccesfully since day one of the operation. Makes no difference if the ginger ninja is out there or not.

By the by, Harry's actually a canny lad. Posher than a posh thing but canny all the same.

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Actually its not good. As co-pilot/ gunner in an Apache he will be taking life on a daily basis and that could make him a security risk for the rest of his life as he has not got the anonimity afforded to normal aircrew members.

 

That's a good point, it's all the justification these warped terrorists need to try to kill him at any point in the future - they hold grudges for hundreds of years, even his kids could be at risk.

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And do you genuinely believe he will be exposed to even the slightest possible danger whatsoever....two chances nil and zero... Im not knocking him far from it... but he needs to decide if he wants a genuine career in the Army or as a payrolled playboy Royal. Top Army Brass have already had him in after the Vegas debacle and chewed his balls off a bit so I would imagine they were far from happy about the escapades of a Commisioned Officer in public let alone a member of the Royal Family.

 

Would any other commision rank have got off so lightly, particularly one given so much responsibility....I think not...

 

This topic has degenerated somewhat into a vexatious mud slinging match between what seems Royalists and Republicans so to answer the original question.... No I think its bad... Royals should not be put at risk in Military conflict under any circumstances.

 

And for the record.. OK so Andrew was at the Falklands however even the slightest sign of potential Argentinian attack he was generally bundled into a helicopter and flown to the other side of the Island.

 

Its a hard enough job to keep the regulars safe without having to worry about a brave young buck trying to bury his past discretions by bumping up a bit of kudos.

 

Thats all from me on the subject...

 

FM,

 

My FST Party took over from his FST when he was a JTAC on OPH8 in Garmsir (JTAC Hill) and the same insurgent activity carried through OPH8 from OPH7 and i can assure you he saw plenty of Contacts and will have seen the BDA afterwards.

 

 

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