Mr Rizzini Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Anyone have any idea what distance you must be from someones property while decoying etc Just would like to know as on one of the stubbles I shoot theres a house about 100 yards away behind me and I always shoot with my back to the hedge shootin away from the house/hedgerow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 best idea would be to go and speak with them and see if its ok,,but on one of my permissions i actually sit in my hide which backs on to a neighbours hedge ,they dont mind as long as its through the day and not in the night or too early in the morning,,i just let them know the night before and they are fine with it,but speak with them its best to be safe than sorry,,,atb,,,evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30-6 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 100 yds should be fine, as long as the noise does not bother them. Try to approach the residents and explain the situation, some places i have shot the hide has been literally up against the boundary of garden / field, as the residents were only too glad to try to reduce the crow numbers. BEWARE of birds if hit carrying on and dropping into said property, especially if they have a greenhouse. If the wind is in your favour, i.e. blowing away from the property all the better to help reduce noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rizzini Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 cheers guys, The problem is that some of the houses dotted around the country or non farm/country people who decided they will build houses in the lovely countryside but dont want any of the country life. The farmer who owns all the barley surrounding the houses has told me that his land and crops were there well before them and that he would like them protected from pest etc and if any of these people have a problem then tell them to clear off. I would like to know my legal distance to quote to anyone if I do get tortured from them or if the police show up someday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikaveli Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) From BASC: In England & Wales it is an offence without lawful authority or reasonable excuse to discharge any firearm within fifty feet of the centre of a highway which consists of or comprises a carriageway, and in consequence a user of the carriageway is injured, interrupted or endangered. [section 161(2) of the Highways Act 1980 as amended]. It is important to remember that the discharge of a firearm is not prohibited in itself. It must also be proved that there was an injury, or that someone’s passage was interrupted or interfered with e.g. they have been forced to make a detour. For the purposes of Section 161 (2) of the Highways Act 1980 (as amended), a ‘highway’ is restricted to a public right of way for the passage of vehicles and does not include footpaths, cycle tracks or bridleways. Therefore the fifty feet rule described above does not apply to rights of ways that cross private lands e.g. footpaths. Based on the above (and previous experience), you can be as close to someone else's property as you like legally. Only 'highways' have the minimum discharge rule - measured from the center. Obviously if you're not considerate, you'll get hassled with loads of complaints etc. As another poster said, just be careful where things are landing and if possible, speak to the occupiers of any local houses, just for reassurance if nothing more. If they're reasonable people, you should both be happy with some minor compromise (not being noisy too late at night etc.). Edited October 24, 2012 by Mikaveli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 you can shoot on there back fence line if you like but best talk to them save s hassles with cop iv have my fair share of muppets over years complaining to cops if they get funny i get farmer too put 2 or 3 gas guns out that sorts them out they don't like them far to many do gooders about that don't like guns ............................ NEWS FOR YOU I DON'T CARE so crack on fella Evan if cops come just be nice and show them your permission and sgc and they will run off back for tea and donuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Had a talk with a lady some time back, asked if it was ok to shoot with my back to the property, said she was pleased to have me that close as the pigeons were making a right mess of the cars in the driveway: ASK, it doesn`t always figure you are going to get Flak, but they can make it very dodgy for you with the police if you don`t:.. Just ask and be reasonable about times etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumbrian shooter Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 best idea would be to go and speak with them and see if its ok,,but on one of my permissions i actually sit in my hide which backs on to a neighbours hedge ,they dont mind as long as its through the day and not in the night or too early in the morning,,i just let them know the night before and they are fine with it,but speak with them its best to be safe than sorry,,,atb,,,evo Good advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) Just use common sense, letting them know not telling them seems the polite way of doing things. Even as a shooter I'd have to say I'd have the hump if people blasted away for hours on end the other side of my boundary without so much as a courtesy call. Edited October 25, 2012 by Muddy Funker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 same here as I think most would you have to appreciate even country people can have dogs that don't like gunshots, children that like to sleep etc. Its the sort of actions where if the farmer receives enough complaints then you usually get kicked off. At 100 yards I think you are on the edge of a reasonable distance but you will still disrupt someones afternoon so best mention it to them and if they are reasonable just encourage them to let you know if it becomes a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caisterboy Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 you can shoot on there back fence line if you like but best talk to them save s hassles with cop iv have my fair share of muppets over years complaining to cops if they get funny i get farmer too put 2 or 3 gas guns out that sorts them out they don't like them far to many do gooders about that don't like guns ............................ NEWS FOR YOU I DON'T CARE so crack on fella Evan if cops come just be nice and show them your permission and sgc and they will run off back for tea and donuts Yep and if i were them i'd be setting off my car alarm at inopportune moments if i was approached in that manner :yp: - sure thing to get anybody's back-up is to be dictated too ! and yes i have experienced this with a load of goose shooters who, at 4.00am in the morning, thought it was ok to park on my lawn and camp out behind my ditch wall as the "farmer" i was in dispute with over a boundary line said it would be ok! You never know what is going on behind the scenes. The next year they came and saw us with a gift of a pair of geese and guess where they parked themselves for a flight into the fields behind my house Always approach to be as friendly as possible and get them onside by explaiining that your permission giver has requested that you perform a service for them. I've found that braces of birds or some already prepared pigeon breasts are a great way of making "friends" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 you can shoot on there back fence line if you like but best talk to them save s hassles with cop iv have my fair share of muppets over years complaining to cops if they get funny i get farmer too put 2 or 3 gas guns out that sorts them out they don't like them far to many do gooders about that don't like guns ............................ NEWS FOR YOU I DON'T CARE so crack on fella Evan if cops come just be nice and show them your permission and sgc and they will run off back for tea and donuts I would have a similar stance on my ground. I would never ask someone if it was ok to shoot near their boundry, but I would tell them when I would be there and for how long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 round us they just call the police and say you've been landing lead on their house, hey presto snotty police giving you a hard time. Might just answer why swiss was moaning about the police visiting nearly every time he went out though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) 100 yards isn't too bad, but still close enough to be a nuisance to some folk. Always best to have a chat and come to an amicable arrangement. Afterall, we're supposed to be responsible shooters!! Edit to add. If someone set up on my boundary without having the common courtesy to ask first I'd make damn sure they didn't shoot a single bird for as long as they were there. Edited October 25, 2012 by poontang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rizzini Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 cheers people, will call to the house next day im heading out. You would think with double glazing etc there wouldnt be much noise at the given range of about 140 yards . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theosmith Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 farmer and all other land owners tell me to tell anyone to do one its there land no laws being broken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Anyone have any idea what distance you must be from someones property while decoying etc Just would like to know as on one of the stubbles I shoot theres a house about 100 yards away behind me and I always shoot with my back to the hedge shootin away from the house/hedgerow. i have a field with a house who has horses and dont like you shooting near her in case it scares the horses even though the farmer dont care if i upset her lol, i went there the other day with my 410 hushpower and sat about that distance shooting away from her and she didnt even know i was there colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 farmer and all other land owners tell me to tell anyone to do one its there land no laws being broken That may well be the case but it certainly isn't the most sensible option. It amazes me how we always complain that the public perception of shooters is poor...and then some people seem to happily **** them off at every opportunity, just because they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theosmith Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 That may well be the case but it certainly isn't the most sensible option. It amazes me how we always complain that the public perception of shooters is poor...and then some people seem to happily **** them off at every opportunity, just because they can. they live in the country , country life happens! so you go knocking on doors and get hostility, do you go and knock on doors of every house you drive past or tell everyone around you whats your buisness.....i dont think so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 they live in the country , country life happens! so you go knocking on doors and get hostility, do you go and knock on doors of every house you drive past or tell everyone around you whats your buisness.....i dont think so It may come as a bit of a shock to you, but not everyone who lives in the country likes shooting, and plenty of those who do still enjoy, and want, a bit of peace and quiet now and again. In answer to your question, no I don't knock on every house in the vicinity of where I'm shooting. If however I was to shoot on someone's boundary, in close proximity to their property, then yes I would speak to them first. It's common courtesy and is more likely to show shooters in a positive light, rather than just setting up at the end of someone's garden and telling them to 'do one'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 they live in the country , country life happens! so you go knocking on doors and get hostility, do you go and knock on doors of every house you drive past or tell everyone around you whats your buisness.....i dont think so they do live in the country and most won't want a 12b being used all afternoon right outside their house, most farmers I know also would get the hump if it was outside their house. its got nothing to do with country folk or being an anti you have to accept that loud bangs at frequent intervals is going to upset people. We shoot reasonably close to houses on driven days but that is 20 minutes and onto the next one, its all about being sensible. The easiest option usually is to bag off areas close to houses and setup somewhere slightly more sensible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 (edited) This is interesting, all of the properties that back onto our farm boundary are actually owned by the farm and have tenants in, that'd make an interesting conversation if they complained. Edited October 26, 2012 by kyska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 best idea would be to go and speak with them and see if its ok,,but on one of my permissions i actually sit in my hide which backs on to a neighbours hedge ,they dont mind as long as its through the day and not in the night or too early in the morning,,i just let them know the night before and they are fine with it,but speak with them its best to be safe than sorry,,,atb,,,evo As above,just plain manners! 100 yards is v close,I would go and see the house,tell them what you are doing,reassure them you will not shoot their way...you will disturb them at that range,some will not care some will,but both sorts will appreciate being advised.You will also enjoy it a lot more if you are not worrying about them,which by the sounds of it you are concerned by...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 It's common courtesy and is more likely to show shooters in a positive light, rather than just setting up at the end of someone's garden and telling them to 'do one'. Simple manners go a long way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 This is interesting, all of the properties that back onto our farm boundary are actually owned by the farm and have tenants in, that'd make an interesting conversation if they complained. its no different other than if a regular problem and they stopped paying their rent due to the disturbance you would be in a mire trying to get them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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