Matt the Pigeon Shooter Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Hello, I am looking at buying my first PCP and have been looking at second hand BSA Scorpions (multi shot) or an Air Ams S410. Does any one have any preference between the 2 and should I be looking out for any renowned problems? I am looking to spend sub £400. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks, Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsaben Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 They are both great mate, best way to choose between them is to get down to your gunshop and shoulder them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 as above but the s410 takes some beating,a cracking light hunting rifle and accurate,built to last Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytree Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 I would suggest you also look at an AA/CZ S200 as well. For a first PCP they are as accurate as hell and light. Very well built and easy to work on. You can use it as a single shot or retro fit various multishot options. AA do one, so do Rowen engineering, CZ also have their own version with a five shot clip. There is a new "hunter version" on the CZ website that has 30% more air capacity and quite a nice looking stock but I haven't seen one for real yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Air Arms S410 i would have over the Scorpion anyday.Thats my opinion.Brilliant rifle is the S410. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Everyone will have an opinion, and neither are bad, you will only ever get personal opinions usually based on what I've got because it is best. Personally the 410 wins hands down for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 if you want somethin light bsa ultra is the one,i have one but i have a scorpion as well an thats heavier than my medalist 12g sporter.but good none the less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Daystate are good, an X2 or Harrier X are within the same price range! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Had both, AirArms S410 all day long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Rapid whips um all out of the 2 I'd have the AA Atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Had both, AirArms S410 all day long. Same here........or get a new AA S200 fantastic little rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxus77 Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 (edited) had S410 for years was best airgun ever by miles IMO, my mate had bsa ultra with thumbstock hole i think but even he loved the s410, bought mine for £800 with 12 x50 scope extar mags etc etc then sold it for just year or so ago for £650 after 5 years use ! only regret 2 things not buying the carbine and selling this one as still would have used it if kept it Edited January 28, 2013 by maxus77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 No comparison-AA S410. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Same here........or get a new AA S200 fantastic little rifle. ...or just go the whole hog and skip the 410... ...and buy a 510! I absolutely LOVE mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topshunt Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Air Arms all the way for me, have s410, S200, and even a tx200. You can't go wrong and wont regret getting either or s510 although never used one. have had bsa springers in the past and more recently bsa r10 and in my opinion there is no comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 bsa s10 or r10 great guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plank06 Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Out of the two id have the s410 pal! Or stretch your budget for a second hand BSA R10 mk2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 ...or s510 although never used one. You should have a go with one, it's like shooting a 410, but even better! bsa s10 or r10 great guns. Just not as good as a S410 the majority seem to feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 You should have a go with one, it's like shooting a 410, but even better! here here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 You should have a go with one, it's like shooting a 410, but even better! Just not as good as a S410 the majority seem to feel. You only get about 70 shots per charge though dont you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 You only get about 70 shots per charge though dont you Yep, and each one pinpoint accurate and deadly! It's turrible! I've never yet had to refill a PCP mid hunt with one noatble exception...a BSA Ultra! To be fair, there's nowt wrong with BSA's, it's just that in MY opinion, they aren't as good as the AirArms guns. Seems quite a few agree though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Yep, and each one pinpoint accurate and deadly! It's turrible! I've never yet had to refill a PCP mid hunt with one noatble exception...a BSA Ultra! To be fair, there's nowt wrong with BSA's, it's just that in MY opinion, they aren't as good as the AirArms guns. Seems quite a few agree though. Each to there own i'll stick to the supertens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt the Pigeon Shooter Posted January 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Excellent response, thanks folks. From what I can make out there is a few more who would lean towards the S410 but as mentioned each to there own. My mate has a super 10 and made a good point that the HO of BSA is only in Birmingham (25 mins away) so if anything was to go wrong I'm only down the road. Last couple of questions, If I'm using it for hunting should I use .177 or .22 & carbine or rifle. Sorry for all the questions but you guys seem to know your stuff :-). Thanks again, Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Excellent response, thanks folks. From what I can make out there is a few more who would lean towards the S410 but as mentioned each to there own. My mate has a super 10 and made a good point that the HO of BSA is only in Birmingham (25 mins away) so if anything was to go wrong I'm only down the road. Last couple of questions, If I'm using it for hunting should I use .177 or .22 & carbine or rifle. Sorry for all the questions but you guys seem to know your stuff :-). Thanks again, Matt :lol: Air Arms seldom go wrong so you will rarely need them, they are in Hailsham, whereas sadly BSA............. my Ultra was a disaster, but after 3 goes at fixing it in Birmingham it does work ok now (funnily I do rate it as a little knock about, but it's operating system is daft fiddly)!! Just for the record, The H.O. of BSA is in Spain! Gamo own them! But I suspect the Local BSA office in Birmingham will be able to help! :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) Excellent response, thanks folks. From what I can make out there is a few more who would lean towards the S410 but as mentioned each to there own. My mate has a super 10 and made a good point that the HO of BSA is only in Birmingham (25 mins away) so if anything was to go wrong I'm only down the road. Last couple of questions, If I'm using it for hunting should I use .177 or .22 & carbine or rifle. Sorry for all the questions but you guys seem to know your stuff :-). Thanks again, Matt Most seem to prefer the carbine version, me included, as its obviously shorter and less weight to lug around. Some prefer .22 and some prefer.177. Both with the correctly placed head shot will take out a rabbit within sensible ranges, 35-40 yards. A little further if you are a very competant shot and the conditions are perfect. The .22 being the heavier pellet and travelling slower has a more prounounced arc than the .177......"loopy trajectory". The .177 flies a lot faster and being a lighter pellet, much flatter. Therefore as accuracy is everything, the .177 requires less calculations for holdover/hold under. Carbine .177 for me. Hope this helps. Edited January 29, 2013 by turbo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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