Pastiebap Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 I think a big difference is back in 1982 the Royal Navy didn't have submarines equipped with conventially armed cruise missiles putting the Argentine mainland into range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 I think a big difference is back in 1982 the Royal Navy didn't have submarines equipped with conventially armed cruise missiles putting the Argentine mainland into range. nah the big difference was the withdrawl of the southern fleet and scrapping HMS endurance, which gave the argies the green light in the belief we would not defend, this time with a base full of typhoons and our eye on the game, they wont take the risk of us backing down. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 If the argie soldiers are like the footballers then they will go down when a bullet fly's somewhere in their general direction and it would be all over in the first half ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr-Sheen Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 why would we need carriers? KW We would only need carriers if we had something that could take off from them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IXI KARL IXI Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 I think the comment about carries was to keep feet dry not the aircraft kind, the bit in brackets seemed more of sarcastic remark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted March 12, 2013 Report Share Posted March 12, 2013 Just to change this round a little could we afford to start another war ? not unless we can borrow a lot of kit. anyone got an aircraft carrier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 What our government should do is first tell us how much of our money they have spent on that place so fare and then haw much it is costing us per year give us this information then ask us if we want to spend the money on them or spend the money on old people disabled people schools hospitals etc etc. If you do think we should be there then I say when the oil money starts rolling in before they get there Rollers and Bentleys they should pay is back for protecting them over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 What our government should do is first tell us how much of our money they have spent on that place so fare and then haw much it is costing us per year give us this information then ask us if we want to spend the money on them or spend the money on old people disabled people schools hospitals etc etc. If you do think we should be there then I say when the oil money starts rolling in before they get there Rollers and Bentleys they should pay is back for protecting them over the years. Would you expect the same from the Shetlands, Orkneys, Hebredies, Isle's of Man or Wight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegazbo Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 George Galloway is backing the argies enough reason for a conflict to start me thinks. KW I'm sorry but George Galloway is the biggest waste of life and should be put against a wall and shot.Although he is the only politician to show that he will sell his sole for cash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 There will be no fighting just some trapping off ! The argies havent the millitary to do it and it would be like sending lambs to slaughter so to speak ! And none of the Argie`s politions want to be held responsible for the lost lives of there troops etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 we are right to defend it,,good job the other idiot has just died ( chavez) as he was backing the argie,s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Apparently the carrier issue is already sorted, they would BORROW one from the yanks: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Why are folk so worried about us not having an aircraft carrier ........ We dont have any planes/fast jet to launch from an air craft carrier anyway ! Tornado carnt do it and neither can the eurofighter ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e2000e2000e Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 We have an airfield on the islands so don't need a carrier! Yes MPA could be bombed, there are other airfields that the typhoons can operate out of within striking distance. Oh yeah A typhoon could leave the UK and be there in 6 hours with a refuel from Ascension. Do more with less! Pretty sure the Argies have still got the same plans from 82! There are as many troops on the island as civvys, it's a good training area for the UK Armed Forces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) No doubt the finding of oil at some of the offshore exploration sites over the past few years will encourage the argies to keep pushing. As a shareholder in some of those successful exploration companies I hope we don't capitulate to their posturing!! I reckon they must know that the islands have some pretty significant ground forces in place but I'm not convinced that we can rely on this "coalition" to have the bollicks that dear old Maggie showed last time they invaded? Edited March 13, 2013 by old rooster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 What our government should do is first tell us how much of our money they have spent on that place so fare and then haw much it is costing us per year give us this information then ask us if we want to spend the money on them or spend the money on old people disabled people schools hospitals etc etc. If you do think we should be there then I say when the oil money starts rolling in before they get there Rollers and Bentleys they should pay is back for protecting them over the years. surely we could same the same regarding scotland or wales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 What our government should do is first tell us how much of our money they have spent on that place so fare and then haw much it is costing us per year give us this information then ask us if we want to spend the money on them or spend the money on old people disabled people schools hospitals etc etc. If you do think we should be there then I say when the oil money starts rolling in before they get there Rollers and Bentleys they should pay is back for protecting them over the years. Wouldn't mind betting it is insignificant compared to how much we waste in Afghanistan, Iraq and any number of other pointless conflicts dear old Mr. Bliar let us get dragged into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wharf Rat Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Argentina have publically stated that they will not try and use force to retake the island. They are gathering support via the UN to make the UK negotiate as per various UN resolutions. I should imagine the UK's case was weakened after Thatcher tried to off load the Falklands onto Argentina with a leaseback scheme back in 1980. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) Would you expect the same from the Shetlands, Orkneys, Hebredies, Isle's of Man or Wight? They are all part of the British Isles not some bloody godforsaken palace on the other side of the world with a bit of diplomacy this could have been sorted out many years ago but like all of these problems both sides go at it like a bull in a china shop. For there own sake they need to be able to get on with there neighbours why should they expect us to shell out millions to defend them just because many years ago they decided that they did not like living with us our country was not good enough for them so they moved to another part of the world. Edited March 13, 2013 by four-wheel-drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Wouldn't mind betting it is insignificant compared to how much we waste in Afghanistan, Iraq and any number of other pointless conflicts dear old Mr. Bliar let us get dragged into. That is another thing what the hell are we doing pocking our noses in to all of these stupid wars all over the world I say get rid of the Army build up our Navy and Airforce that is what we need to keep us safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DorsetJasper Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 It will now with an Argentinian Pope, the next holy war B) Don't worry i will get my coat and leave quietly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 It will now with an Argentinian Pope, the next holy war B) Don't worry i will get my coat and leave quietly Shouldn't be to much of a problem, keep him well supplied with choir boys and he won't wander far from the Vatican. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy8762 Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Should we start sign ups for some kind of home guard/civil defence force/home guard type of thing? EDIT- we have no navy now a days so invasion is a strong possibility. we were lucky the navy got there last time...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Shouldn't be to much of a problem, keep him well supplied with choir boys and he won't wander far from the Vatican. Send over that odious piece of excrement Galloway to service the pope. Both problems sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Would you expect the same from the Shetlands, Orkneys, Hebredies, Isle's of Man or Wight? Beat me to it Penelope, secondly, why would the money go to the islanders?, it would go to the government that granted the exploration licences and then the companies that put the money up up front to explore and then produce. Confused with the original question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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