goodo123 Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 With the recent thread about a online retailer and a few facts from the law I.e. only to buy not to possess do you think we should be made to produce our cert at point of sale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 No brainer - Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neillfrbs Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 def yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshAndy Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 100% Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Yes, mostly because it's sensible and partly because it makes you feel elitist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Why not? YES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 No, I never saw a problem before the law was changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the pigeon man Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 110% yes !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leetodd Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varminter pb Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I don't see any problem with the current laws allowing collection with authority as in my thread / case. Be VERY careful where you take this as the shot gun laws haven't had the same revamps as the firearms laws, and like firearms it is illegal to possess ammunition, could easily go the same way for cartridges..... Don't fancy storing them in a cabinet! As per my thread, MY original was presented at point of collection. I now wonder what I have started. In a way shotgun laws are rather relaxed in that a friend can buy / collect a gun on my behalf on their SGC and simply transfer / sell it to me adding it to mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I don't have a problem producing my SGC it I want carts. Just the same I can remember back to (the good old days! ) when I was a lad and often bought carts for my Dad for Birthday/Fathers Day/whatever, I don't remember there ever being a problem of safety/crime so I'm not entirely sure why we need to now!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rizzini Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 yes, crooks and pipe bombs come to mind if no cert was used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Times have changed. Too many idiots doing stupid things. You just have to look on youtube for instructions on how to construct a shotgun from bits of pipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 hell yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Times have changed. Too many idiots doing stupid things. You just have to look on youtube for instructions on how to construct a shotgun from bits of pipe. I think this is more relevant now than it used to be due to the fact that guns for crooks are relatively hard to get hold of, if there was easy access to cartridges but not to any other firearm type then surely there would be an influx of people making zip shotguns. Not that im suggesting other guns should be easier to get hold of, to mitigate the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I votes yes. Given that this is a legal requirement then I can't see how anyone could argue otherwise. Unless you are gauging opinion as to whether the law should be changed? J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) I votes yes. Given that this is a legal requirement then I can't see how anyone could argue otherwise. Unless you are gauging opinion as to whether the law should be changed? J. Edit Error posting, please ignore! Edited April 26, 2013 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodo123 Posted April 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I can see the point about pipe bombs zip guns etc but the other side is if their criminals surely they would get them any other way? I.e. steel etc. Do you not think it's silly having to have one to buy but not to possess?. In my opinion i cant see why anyone would need carts without a sgc (unless at a clay ground). I also think carts need to be a litte more regulated. Not to the point of having set buy/hold limitations but certain storage requirements. I know people say their is too much regulation but I'm pretty sure most people on here would fit or raise security on carts anyway. What I mean by this is I think they should be located inside a property (not a shed garage etc), out of view to casual visitors and unable to be accessible to people under 16 (possibly 18). If you have to keep them in a lockable cabinet to keep them away from children then so be it. That's my opinion anyway.... Ready for the barrage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I voted no, simply because if I wanted a handgun I could have one here by the end of the week. Laws do little to stop crime. If someone dodgy wants cartridges they'll get them, so why make it harder for the law abiding and traders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Brian Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I can see the point about pipe bombs zip guns etc but the other side is if their criminals surely they would get them any other way? I.e. steel etc. Do you not think it's silly having to have one to buy but not to possess?. In my opinion i cant see why anyone would need carts without a sgc (unless at a clay ground). I also think carts need to be a litte more regulated. Not to the point of having set buy/hold limitations but certain storage requirements. I know people say their is too much regulation but I'm pretty sure most people on here would fit or raise security on carts anyway. What I mean by this is I think they should be located inside a property (not a shed garage etc), out of view to casual visitors and unable to be accessible to people under 16 (possibly 18). If you have to keep them in a lockable cabinet to keep them away from children then so be it. That's my opinion anyway.... Ready for the barrage... To shoot as a guest somewhere other than a clay ground perhaps? as far as I can see the system works as it stands (can't comment on firearms though as I don't have them). By the way, my vote is a yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Voted yes Strange thing is though, you dont need a certificate to have them in your posession Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rizzini Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Yeah but its hard to get them unless you have a cert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I don't have a problem producing my SGC it I want carts. Just the same I can remember back to (the good old days! ) when I was a lad and often bought carts for my Dad for Birthday/Fathers Day/whatever, I don't remember there ever being a problem of safety/crime so I'm not entirely sure why we need to now!? remember though Dekers in the good old days, there didnt seem to be as many smackheads about permantely off their faces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Daft ruddy poll if you ask me, can't see the point of it. The law on this matter simple, workable and straightforward without hindering the user or their servants, my wife in this case. It appeases the anti gun brigade and poses no hardship to the buyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varminter pb Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Daft ruddy poll if you ask me, can't see the point of it. The law on this matter simple, workable and straightforward without hindering the user or their servants, my wife in this case. It appeases the anti gun brigade and poses no hardship to the buyer. ^^^This^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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