maxwell Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Hi Guy's i need some advise from people who have used .410, is it fit for purpose as a hide gun for pigeon and if so what shells would be recomended, my son is very keen to start shooting and after plenty of clays he will progress to the hide with me for pigeon, i would like a gun that will do both at sensible ranges of say 25yrds, we have tried several guns and 20bore are slightly heavy but 410 fit nice Regards Maxwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the pigeon man Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 A nice 28bore would be better for the the hide !! I use my 28 bore for everything and its lighter than most .410 ! People laugh when I pull it out slip untill she starts dusting clays off and pigeon at 30-40 yards Also shoot like a .410 no kick at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROYLE11 Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Have you tried a Yildiz 20 bore junior 26" barrels and a 13" stock very light Regards Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) 410 is definately fit for purpose when decoying pigeons. Richard Brigham of sporting gun uses one regularly. here is a photo from one of his articles. Edited May 31, 2013 by aga man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad1 Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 My son used one on clays and pigeon with great results Even now it sometimes comes out for a quick walk round permissions ?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Anything's fit for purpose if you get close enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Brian Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 As a kid I progressed from air rifle to a .410 bolt action Norica. I used to sit in the hide with my Dad, taking turns to shoot. The .410 is capable of doing the job but everything has to be going right on the day. If you can get the pigeons to decoy to say 20 yards consistently then I would say you are in business. Any further than that and I think the results, especially for a new starter will tail off very quickly. At 20 yards the good old Eley Fourlong in #6 would be fine (don't get 5's because there won't be enough pellets). Anything past that go to Extra long, again in 6's. I can't really comment on any other makes as I need to shoot fibre wad where I am. I understand the Lyalvale shells (plastic wad) are pretty good though. For short range decoying shot size 7-71/2 will help get the pellet count up but round here there is very little chance of getting Fourlong or Extra Long in size 7. I now load my own so can shoot what best suits me. If you can get a 28 bore for sensible money then that will probably be your best bet but if you can't then a .410 would do the job. It just takes a lot more time and effort to arrive at the choke and shell combination to suit the gun and shooter. All the best with it Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Hatsan do a junior 3 shot semi in 20 gauge (multi choke) -my lad uses one for pigeons and its so good that I have been leaving my 12g 525 at home and using his gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse James Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Perfect little Tool, my boy had dropped hundreds of woodies with his... Now he's moved up to 12g. any way we used Eley 6's / 18gram load cartridges (Magnum Extra Long) as in picture by aga man. lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 As others have said, a 410 has advantages and disadvantages. The biggest problem (as I see it) is that most 410s are quite tightly choked, so you do need to be very accurate compared to all other calibres. If he's missing a lot, and it's easy to miss even at 20 yards or so, it might be a bit demoralising for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted June 1, 2013 Report Share Posted June 1, 2013 As others have said, a 410 has advantages and disadvantages. The biggest problem (as I see it) is that most 410s are quite tightly choked, so you do need to be very accurate compared to all other calibres. If he's missing a lot, and it's easy to miss even at 20 yards or so, it might be a bit demoralising for him. I believe that if his 'apprenticeship' is done correctly and practices clays often, then this aspect can only help a beginner. My dad taught a young lad to shoot with a .410 on skeet. He became very proficient with it and is now a good all round shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted June 1, 2013 Report Share Posted June 1, 2013 I would suggest some good practice with Clays to get the eye in first even with a hand thrower if thats all you have then it should be OK a 28 gauge from the turks would last him longer and not cost a great deal more for little extra weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwell Posted June 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 Thank you for all the comments and advice Kind Regards Maxwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B B Posted June 3, 2013 Report Share Posted June 3, 2013 I have an old 410 Remington wingmaster i have had for 40 years forgot just how many pigeons rabbits and game i have shot with this gun, and clays too, it is more than capable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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