clakk Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 got bits n bobs booked and dsc1 ,going to apply for fac for deer what do u advise calibre wise for initial fac .so far two advise .308 and 1 .243 .please give your choice and why if possible .greed would get me applying for both but would one cover most ie muntys and roes but i would like to go to scotland for red deer as well thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Get ready for at least 20 'this is the only calibre to have' replies... My advice would be to shoot a few calibres if you can before you decide I shot 308 and 243 and 6.5 before deciding, and went for the 6.5 That was 11 years ago and I have shot roe, fallow, red and boar with one rifle, I don't regret the choice at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scimitar Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Agree with what dunkield has said, I've a .243 and I am more than happy with it but my mates have .270 and .308 and they'll both tell you those calibres are the way to go. If possible try and use a few different guns before deciding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) .308 . Jack of all trades calibre and master of them all . Closely followed by the mighty .270. Harnser Edited July 26, 2013 by Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 4 down only 16 to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 6.5x55 for a first, not too big for the ploice to baulk at but pleant of power to get the job done. Sooooooooooooooo much better than a .243 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted July 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) yeh i got told 308 does all then , a dealer said nay nay .243 is all hence my confusion dot.com as im reading through the dsc cd from bds and they generalise too ..308 makes sense but as dunkield says i need to get my butt on the range and find wot suits me best Edited July 26, 2013 by clakk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 30.06, Cause its just amazing and as some say " MIGHTY" nuff said ;-) 14 left Stu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 7.62x39 :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 (edited) Harnser's right, the answer is .308 and it does "everything" you could ever want it to. Go shooting away from home and chances are whoever you are with will have some spare. I shot .25-06 abroad and the beaters wanted the odd empty (not to weigh in or home load) but because they hadn't seen the round before. It then just struck me that if I ran out, I wouldn't be getting any more shooting in. Edited July 27, 2013 by Mungler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 .308 for me all day long. Accurate and superalitve stopper. Drops everything without excessive speed and damage, massive choice of ammo and equally massive number of possibilities for hand loaders. It will kill any deer species anywhere from Munties to African plains game and you'll never struggle to find ammo for it. For a fox/deer rifle I would favour a .25-06 over a .243. Its flat enough for long range foxes but better than a .243 for large deer species. Its also an accurate round and good fun on the range. Only issue, as Mungler says, is less available ammo choice. Not a problem for hand loaders but if you're relying on factory ammo most dealers will stock a couple of brands of .25-06, 3 if you're lucky, but a shelf full of .243 and .308. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Take a look at one of my favourite websites. Stacks of excellent information about the real-life hunting capabilities of all the likely calibres: http://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/.308+Winchester+7.62+NATO.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 (edited) As said 308 if its deer only, I went .243 and no regrets at all but I do shoot 75% or so foxes and stalk with a gwp so no issues yet on loosing any. The realistic side to this is largely ammo choice use an appropriate bullet in whichever caliber that's legal and it will drop any deer in this country, use a light varmint one and you may end up chasing it! Then there is putting the bullet in the right place which is the ultimate deciding factor, I've got puppies going to a few stalking guides and their main issue is botched shots rather than anything else. Still should give the dogs something to do With your list of quarry I also did go out to a muntjac a mate had lost with a decent 308 shot, found it shot was good but it looped when it ran so really it just shows whatever caliber you use it can happen Edited July 27, 2013 by al4x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Another vote for .308 it does every thing from Muntjack to Moose Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 30wcf . U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 You`ll only end up confused asking a question like that on here !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 After horses for courses it comes down to personal preference really.I have a Tikka T3 in .243Win as the biggest quarry I shoot is Roe and I happen to like the Tikka aesthetics.If I was after big piggies then it would be .308/7.62,or 30-06 or triple 4 or something similar,or whatever the quarry/circumstances require. There are some stunning rifles out there in a wide variety of calibres and styles,and if there was a definitive calibre/rifle combination for a particular criteria then that may not possibly be the case. When it comes down to it a 12 bore is a 12 bore and if you put the pattern in the right place it will do the job;the same applies to a .308Win;the rest is just cosmetics. Personal preference;decide what YOU want to shoot,which takes care of the calibre,then choose one which appeals to YOU.It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.All my firearms are chosen purely because their looks/design appeals to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 The question you need to ask is will you shoot anything big? How deep are your pockets, red hinds are fine with a ,243 but stags its questionable. Personally if I went for a stag I'd use an estate rifle. There are stacks of people I know and on here who have calibers for boar and large reds and shoot nothing really other than muntjac and roe with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted July 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 thanks guys ,308 i reckon then as i spent 6 years firing 7.62 in a firm that wears green suits.and i think youve confirmed itl do the damage across my principal quarry range and is available wherever u go cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 Harnser's right, the answer is .308 and it does "everything" you could ever want it to. Go shooting away from home and chances are whoever you are with will have some spare. I shot .25-06 abroad and the beaters wanted the odd empty (not to weigh in or home load) but because they hadn't seen the round before. It then just struck me that if I ran out, I wouldn't be getting any more shooting in. As has been stated buy both Harser and Mungler the .308 is the do all calibre, BUT, if you wish to spread your wings and go abroad then you need to consider the Military Calibre conundrum which is a pain in the butt in a few EU countries. Due to this I opted for the 300 Win Mag, but then again I already had the .243 for the smaller Deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambsman Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 At the risk of continuing the debate..........just get cool and get a Swede........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernel gadaffi Posted July 27, 2013 Report Share Posted July 27, 2013 6.5X55 then 7-08. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 6.5X55 then 7-08. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted July 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 is a cannon like that more suitable for wildboar and bears ,not that we get many bears in these parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Yes, I never knew people had such problem killing muntjac and roe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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