Reeceknight Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 so most know the story of my reptured disc etc over the last 6 months and now I'm booked in for an operation in 3 weeks. for about 7-8 weeks now iv been taking EVERY 4 hours 2 x tramadol 2x diazepam 2x paracetamol 2x ibrupeofin also taking when waking up in the nigh in pain. .....and obviously at the start of this I spent 7 days in hospital on morphine and all the other ****. I simply couldn't go to work or shoot or sleep without taking these drugs to ease the pain. 4 days ago I thought "sod it, I feel ok'ish and don't like how long I have been taking these painkillers" my god what a mistaka-to-maker!!!!! I have spent 4 days and nights, in cold sweats, snapping, itchy, clicking and clucking, when I sleep I have wierd dreams and wake dripping with sweat and cold, iv been shouting in my sleep and have gone of food all togeather, Rang my doctor to explain that I feel like a character from train spotting and his reply was along the lines of " oh mr knight I told you to come of them slowly as they have the same withdrawal symptom as opium based products and both tramadol and diazepam are HIGHLY addictive! "" I don't remember the pleb saying any of that when he put me on them! he's told me to carry on taking them but half doses slowly, sod that I'm 4 days in now and hope to start feeling better any day now. I can't imagine what it's like to get hooked on somthing like meth or heroin if I'm honest. I'm simply sharing this story for all the other back pain sufferers on this forum as a heads up. now iv googled it it seems I have shared this issue with half the country who have been prescribed these drugs haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 Been there - could write a book about Morphine, Tramadol etc. I got off them after my third visit to hospital - purely because of what Tramadol had caused. I take no pain killers, but face the rest of my life feeling like someone is stabbing me in the back and ribs. Never, ever goes away. I hope you end up in a better state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeceknight Posted August 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 iv never been through anything like it. I would rather the laying on the floor not at work then being hooked on drugs like that. they need to explain ALOT more before handing them out willy nilly. I'm not a week person what so ever but it's been a hard 4-5 days and nights. Builds character though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biketestace Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 Been there - could write a book about Morphine, Tramadol etc. I got off them after my third visit to hospital - purely because of what Tramadol had caused. I take no pain killers, but face the rest of my life feeling like someone is stabbing me in the back and ribs. Never, ever goes away. I hope you end up in a better state. Im with Gordon on this one, tramadol is one that I would class as HATEFULL. get well soon bud.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul T Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 Great fun innit? Last time I came off my painkillers I was at the side of a swimming pool in Turkey - 38 deg and I was wearing a tee shirt, jumper and wrapped in a beach towel for extra warmth . It took me a couple of days. Stick with it mate - if you can manage without painkillers all well and good . I just find the pain too disruptive - can't sleep, can't concentrate on anything and I'm permanently snappy. Living with a constant red mist and not being fully aware of your surroundings isn't good . I want to shoot and enjoy life, and to do that I need to get pain under control - it's a no brainer for me. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 Been there - could write a book about Morphine, Tramadol etc. I got off them after my third visit to hospital - purely because of what Tramadol had caused. I take no pain killers, but face the rest of my life feeling like someone is stabbing me in the back and ribs. Never, ever goes away. I hope you end up in a better state. How awful. I feel for you. Tramadol is superb for what it is, but unfortunately some people have issues with it. Have you tried any other 'complementary' treatments for pain relief? BMJ studies have shown that psychotherapy using distraction techniques have worked very well with people with chronic pain, TENS, acupuncture are also other non drug treatments, or have you discussed the non painkiller pain killers similar to the anti-epileptics or anti-depressants? You shouldn't have to live in a state of pain, although pain is a very simple thing we all understand, its surprising how very personal pain can be, ask for a referral to a neurologist or do it privately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 kyska - thanks for the thoughts. I had sessions with the aptly named "Pain Nurse", but they only prescribe drugs. Distraction actually works for me. When I am busy or in company, I tend to push the pain to one side. Once I stop, it returns - relentless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deny essex Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) Feel for you, still waiting for the operation on my spine, rarely I take any painkillers got the brain used to blanking a lot of it out and medication when its real bad. Edited August 18, 2013 by deny essex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 kyska - thanks for the thoughts. I had sessions with the aptly named "Pain Nurse", but they only prescribe drugs. Distraction actually works for me. When I am busy or in company, I tend to push the pain to one side. Once I stop, it returns - relentless. You're welcome, I really think you could do with a referral, there are lots of other ways of dealing with pain, without being rude, and not getting you all wrong, I imagine you can afford to see a specialist, even if it's for pain management solely and no further 'invasive' treatments. Distraction techniques only really work with 'pulsing' or transient pain, you obviously don't fall into this clinical criteria. Go see someone, pain can have such an impact on your quality of life, even when you 'get used to it', its not a good state to be in. What drugs did they suggest? Some people, learned or not, get anxious about drugs from initial treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) so most know the story of my reptured disc etc over the last 6 months and now I'm booked in for an operation in 3 weeks. for about 7-8 weeks now iv been taking EVERY 4 hours 2 x tramadol 2x diazepam 2x paracetamol 2x ibrupeofin also taking when waking up in the nigh in pain. .....and obviously at the start of this I spent 7 days in hospital on morphine and all the other ****. I simply couldn't go to work or shoot or sleep without taking these drugs to ease the pain. 4 days ago I thought "sod it, I feel ok'ish and don't like how long I have been taking these painkillers" my god what a mistaka-to-maker!!!!! I have spent 4 days and nights, in cold sweats, snapping, itchy, clicking and clucking, when I sleep I have wierd dreams and wake dripping with sweat and cold, iv been shouting in my sleep and have gone of food all togeather, Rang my doctor to explain that I feel like a character from train spotting and his reply was along the lines of " oh mr knight I told you to come of them slowly as they have the same withdrawal symptom as opium based products and both tramadol and diazepam are HIGHLY addictive! "" I don't remember the pleb saying any of that when he put me on them! he's told me to carry on taking them but half doses slowly, sod that I'm 4 days in now and hope to start feeling better any day now. I can't imagine what it's like to get hooked on somthing like meth or heroin if I'm honest. I'm simply sharing this story for all the other back pain sufferers on this forum as a heads up. now iv googled it it seems I have shared this issue with half the country who have been prescribed these drugs haha. edit, wrong place Edited August 18, 2013 by kyska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 i shatterd my rite leg in a bike accident some years ago.. was on morphine for the pain for a few days in between operations.. i found myself wanting it even when i didnt need it...the stuff sent me loopy, im sure i was getting addicted to it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) so most know the story of my reptured disc etc over the last 6 months and now I'm booked in for an operation in 3 weeks. for about 7-8 weeks now iv been taking EVERY 4 hours 2 x tramadol 2x diazepam 2x paracetamol 2x ibrupeofin also taking when waking up in the nigh in pain. .....and obviously at the start of this I spent 7 days in hospital on morphine and all the other ****. I simply couldn't go to work or shoot or sleep without taking these drugs to ease the pain. 4 days ago I thought "sod it, I feel ok'ish and don't like how long I have been taking these painkillers" my god what a mistaka-to-maker!!!!! I have spent 4 days and nights, in cold sweats, snapping, itchy, clicking and clucking, when I sleep I have wierd dreams and wake dripping with sweat and cold, iv been shouting in my sleep and have gone of food all togeather, Rang my doctor to explain that I feel like a character from train spotting and his reply was along the lines of " oh mr knight I told you to come of them slowly as they have the same withdrawal symptom as opium based products and both tramadol and diazepam are HIGHLY addictive! "" I don't remember the pleb saying any of that when he put me on them! he's told me to carry on taking them but half doses slowly, sod that I'm 4 days in now and hope to start feeling better any day now. I can't imagine what it's like to get hooked on somthing like meth or heroin if I'm honest. I'm simply sharing this story for all the other back pain sufferers on this forum as a heads up. now iv googled it it seems I have shared this issue with half the country who have been prescribed these drugs haha. I've only just read the initial post, the 'pleb' probably saved you a whole lot of pain, and you decide after medical advice to do the opposite anyway? Excellent. Edited August 18, 2013 by kyska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernel gadaffi Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 I know about this stuff, taking Tramadol, Naproxen, Paracetamol and using Capsaicin cream. It's good fun........not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeceknight Posted August 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 the "pleb" said I had a pulled muscle and sent me home on drugs lol turns out I couldn't walk and had a ruptured disc and some other problems and needed an operation after 6 months of not driving, having bills bounce I spent 6 weeks on the floor on initial thread I put a picture up of me in an ambulance as I couldn't walk to the toilet etc and turns out "pulled muscle" was slightly rong. thanks for ur input any way. good advice to gorden as his isn't being sorted but physio won't fix mine hence the reason for operation and long stays in hospital. Excellent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeceknight Posted August 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) I've only just read the initial post, the 'pleb' probably saved you a whole lot of pain, and you decide after medical advice to do the opposite anyway? Excellent. do you know my doctor by the way because I feel you took me calling him a pleb personal? lol just wondering. Edited August 18, 2013 by Reeceknight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedsanity Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 Diazepam is an anti anxiety drug often prescribed as a muscle relaxant and is not an opiate, it is a benzodiazepine and unlike opiates cessation without a gradual tail off can cause seizures and even death ! You can dump the rest overnight but you must please be careful with any members of the benzo family when stopping them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) do you know my doctor by the way because I feel you took me calling him a pleb personal? lol just wondering. No, I don't obviously, I just think its a bit disrespectful after getting prescribed care you feel free to abuse him/her. How would have you got on without the 'plebs' help? Diazepam is an anti anxiety drug often prescribed as a muscle relaxant and is not an opiate, it is a benzodiazepine and unlike opiates cessation without a gradual tail off can cause seizures and even death ! You can dump the rest overnight but you must please be careful with any members of the benzo family when stopping them Take this advice with a pinch of internet salt, let us forget the effects of opiate withdrawal, which is exactly has been discussed IE Tramadol. Edited August 18, 2013 by kyska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeceknight Posted August 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 wow even this post is going to end up "one of these" threads. my doctor is fantastic, helped me out by writing my prescriptions etc. has nice after shave and I always think he smells good. nice bloke all in all even if he does have white socks with his suite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balian Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 Became addicted to tramadol a few years back after shattering the bones in my leg. Was taking a months supply in a week, messed me up had to get off it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 the last time my back properly went kerplunk i was on a similar cocktail of pain killer for over a month during which i was like a dribbling mess (not just saturday nights) it took me another month before i felt well after i came off them i was restless could no concentrate or sit still for more than 5 minutes it was horrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 2 x tramadol2x diazepam these are the two that will be causing you the problems, good luck hope you feel better soon, try reducing the dose before quitting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren m Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 been in pain ( right side ribs and back ) for around 7 years now on tramadol , cocodamol , naproxin , also attended the pain clinics , unfortunatley the docs cant see anything obviously wrong . so the suffering continues . like Gordon said though , keeping my mind busy does kind of help , although its pretty hard to block out good luck with your op , you,ll probably need those pain killers during your rehab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 The most pain that I have ever been in was when I came round from having a similar op to the one Reece is having. Thank the all seeing omnipotent being for morphine. been in pain ( right side ribs and back ) for around 7 years now on tramadol , cocodamol , naproxin , also attended the pain clinics , unfortunatley the docs cant see anything obviously wrong . so the suffering continues . like Gordon said though , keeping my mind busy does kind of help , although its pretty hard to block out good luck with your op , you,ll probably need those pain killers during your rehab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 I got a ankle debribement ( read the joint cleaned out ) last August and i was on painkiller to hobble about before that to hobble about after it i was on nine different types of pain killers and gel because im a big guy and it was the lowest part of my body all the fluid gathered there and it swelled up all the time ,I was constipated and the doctors giving me tablets to go to the toilet and im thinking who these tablets are controlling my life , so i just stopped taking them , it landed me in bed for two weeks with bad flu like symptoms ive lost a year of my life but im getting there staggered hours back at work doing a bit more each day but im no dependent on tablets apart from now ive to take indigestion ones to stop me being sick as my stomachs screwed up back to the doctor tommorrow but all they say is you shouldn't be on those tablets that lenght of time , but they where prescribing them for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 I was on Tramadol for a good while after having my tonsils out last year, VERY painful as an adult... oh and an artery ruptured 2 days after surgery and I nearly bled to death... anyway... **** happens huh! I dont remember having any issues after coming off the pain meds.. I must be one of the few lucky ones! I've had problems coming off anti anxiety drugs in the past and taking less over time was the only way I could do it. Hope you start feeling right soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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