johnny Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Just gone out to check my zero second shot a the bolt won't close properly nor come open again. Guns a tikka m590 22-250. Anyone got any ideas Cheers john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) Home loads or factory? How far has the bolt got? All the way forward and with the handle starting to go down or not closed at all? If it's partly closed a few gentle taps to the bolt handle with a small dead blow hammer can get them to lift (you're aiming to knock it open so hit it upwards). If you don't have one a normal hammer with a block of wood between it and the bolt will stop you from damaging the gun. If it's just pushed into the chamber with no engagement of the bolt lugs I'd try tapping it out with a cleaning rod Edited August 23, 2013 by njc110381 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Bolt is all the way in and goes down the first click and comes ill the way up but won't come back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Slip a spent 22lr case on the end of a cleaning rod then insert it down the muzzle and gently tap it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 I take it it safe to do that so long as the bolt is up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 I take it it safe to do that so long as the bolt is up Well nothing is entirely safe when theres a live round stuck up the chuff,but theres very little other options.I've done this with my old Mauser and all i'll say is take it easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtaylor Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Is it worth trying to tap the bolt handle to bring the bolt back, rather than taping the bullet? I would feel safer behind the muzzle rather than having a rod down the barrel and live round in the chamber. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomov Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 ****** tapping it from the sharp end. Surely the ideal is gun rest, muzzle pointing in a safe direction, gently tap bolt handle up and back with mallet or hammer / block of wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 ****** tapping it from the sharp end. Surely the ideal is gun rest, muzzle pointing in a safe direction, gently tap bolt handle up and back with mallet or hammer / block of wood. +1 Just thinking about how you would do a risk assesment on that one, OK it might be safe sometimes but just think of the times it wont be. A lost hand could be the least of the injury add to that a cleaning rod stuck up the barrel. No i fancy the hitting the bolt back with a hammer and wood option thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) I wouldn't be tapping anything from the muzzle end with a live round up the spout, concentrate on getting the bolt out from the back end only. Repeat... I wouldn't be tapping anything from the muzzle end. Edited August 23, 2013 by Good shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 I'm no gunsmith but I don't think hitting the pointy end of the round onto a bolt that won't move is not the safest option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 god no ! tap the bolt open.be safe not sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadioles Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 And wear a pair of safety goggles! If something does go bang it will probably be contained but there could be fine particles ejected and your eyes are at greatest risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushjob Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Seriously can't believe some of the helpful hints in this thread. How you can advocate poking something down the barrel of a weapon with a live round in the breach beggars belief! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 And wear a pair of safety goggles! If something does go bang it will probably be contained but there could be fine particles ejected and your eyes are at greatest risk. If something goes bang it will not save his b******* though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottoj18 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) Would it be possible to remove the barrel? Edited August 23, 2013 by Scottoj18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Had this happen recently with my .222 and used the tap the bolt option (stand on side opposite ejection port). Worked for me and seemed to be grit in the chamber that caused it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Start by videoing it to make sure you get £250 compensation from you been framed Then gently tap the bolt with a rubber mallet, once the bolt is fully open tap a cleaning rod through the barrel, do not have any thing on the end if the bullet is pushed in to the case put some thin oil down the barrel leave for a few minuets to soak in to the powder you then can give it a better tap to dislodge the bullet as mentioned earlier wear protective goggles just in case. Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Thanks for the help but still no joy at the moment. Think I will be off to the gun shop tomorrow. Cheers john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 If it will come out by tapping the bolt then great, but if the extractor claw doesn't grip the case hard enough you've got little choice but to tap it out. If you're that worried about it going off you could take the bolt apart and remove the firing pin. In fact if I had a live one stuck up the spout that's probably the first thing I would do. Hitting the bullet end of a cartridge isn't going to make it go off. Primers are very slightly recessed into the pocket for just that reason. If at all unsure though I suppose the gunsmith route is best, but I wouldn't be surprised if he just taps it out with a rod! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danoi99 Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Am I the only one wincing whilst reading this thread ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazed Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 It's deffo getting interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claycrasher Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 As a novice reading this it would appear that tapping out the cartridge is the way forward, it's just a question of WHO is going to be doing the tapping, you or A.N. OTHER lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 I would make sure either you full length resize next loading or scrap your brass. Again a mention of using "SAND" in gun rests, it may not have been an issue here but cack on the cases or in the chamber could cause this. But more likely cases over large Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 what ever you did or done, hope you sorted it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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