keg Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) Pitt the even younger ( Miliband if you never watched Blackadder) has promised an uk apprentice for each foreign worker if he gets into power. 1. It was the previous muppets in his party that allowed unbridled immigration as a social experiment. 2> How do you define a uk citizen, the person could have been a foreign worker up to the day before in theory. Edited September 22, 2013 by keg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Ed millipede is a joke, I wince for him just watching his painfully unsuccessful attempts at charisma. The fact he and his party clearly still have no understanding of what they got wrong is all telling. Clueless morons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Just more BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryman Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 It is all to late, they have all ready done irreversible damage with immigration, the real question that our younger and older English citizens need to answer is , do you want to stay and put up with what this country has become, or do you want to set up some ware else on the globe. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 The less bright MiliBLAND brother is one of the best things that could be helping LIEbour NOT get in to power at the next General Election!!!!! Backed up by the VERY appropriately named Ed BALLS!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonno243 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 It is all to late, they have all ready done irreversible damage with immigration, the real question that our younger and older English citizens need to answer is , do you want to stay and put up with what this country has become, or do you want to set up some ware else on the globe. Chris Hang on, am I missing something? I am struggling with the logic. Immigrants have already done irreversible damage to the UK and so the only solution is to reestablish your life in another country? Or to put it another way, the only way to beat the immigration issue is for you yourself to become an immigrant somewhere else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryman Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Yes, thats right, if you can not beat them, join them. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) The less bright MiliBLAND brother is one of the best things that could be helping LIEbour NOT get in to power at the next General Election!!!!! Backed up by the VERY appropriately named Ed BALLS!!!! I'd go one step further and refer to him as MEGABLAND. "Mili" suggesting just a small level of blandness?? Isn't the party referred to spelt LIE BORE ? Edited September 22, 2013 by old rooster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 It has taken him a long tome but at least he is trying to come up with some ideas its a start with the apprentice thing and I for one like the idea of revercing the bedroom tax the reason that old people live in big houses is the stupid governments of all types did not have the common sence to build small houses and bungalows for people to downsize in to. if someone has lived in a council house for thirty years the rent that they have been paying has paid for that house several times over and I should add that most people who live in council houses work and pay the rent something that lots of people cannot get in to there heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castletyne Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 It has taken him a long tome but at least he is trying to come up with some ideas its a start with the apprentice thing and I for one like the idea of revercing the bedroom tax the reason that old people live in big houses is the stupid governments of all types did not have the common sence to build small houses and bungalows for people to downsize in to. if someone has lived in a council house for thirty years the rent that they have been paying has paid for that house several times over and I should add that most people who live in council houses work and pay the rent something that lots of people cannot get in to there heads. If you work and pay the rent theres no bedroom tax to pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 If you work and pay the rent theres no bedroom tax to pay you may find it hard to beleve but some people do get old and if they have been working doing low paid jobs then they will probably not have the luxury of having a privet pension even good hard working people get made redundant when there jobs are sent off to countries that pay slave labour wages also jobs do not grow on trees in large parts of this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 It has taken him a long tome but at least he is trying to come up with some ideas its a start with the apprentice thing and I for one like the idea of revercing the bedroom tax the reason that old people live in big houses is the stupid governments of all types did not have the common sence to build small houses and bungalows for people to downsize in to. if someone has lived in a council house for thirty years the rent that they have been paying has paid for that house several times over and I should add that most people who live in council houses work and pay the rent something that lots of people cannot get in to there heads. Seeing as the rent for council houses is subsidised and is less than paying a mortgage,i cannot see how you reach that conclusion,most mortgages are over 25 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 you may find it hard to beleve but some people do get old and if they have been working doing low paid jobs then they will probably not have the luxury of having a privet pension even good hard working people get made redundant when there jobs are sent off to countries that pay slave labour wages also jobs do not grow on trees in large parts of this country. If you are a pensioner you do not have to pay for any spare rooms you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Seeing as the rent for council houses is subsidised and is less than paying a mortgage,i cannot see how you reach that conclusion,most mortgages are over 25 years. How much do you think it costs to build a house not the stupid prises that people pay for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 you may find it hard to beleve but some people do get old and if they have been working doing low paid jobs then they will probably not have the luxury of having a privet pension even good hard working people get made redundant when there jobs are sent off to countries that pay slave labour wages also jobs do not grow on trees in large parts of this country. Is that anything like a hedge fund?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 How much do you think it costs to build a house not the stupid prises that people pay for them. The price of building a house is not the point,virtually no one pays the build price,otherwise we would all have mortgages half the price.A council house is subsidised social housing for people on low pay,or is supposed to be,it is not a right it is a privilege,if that makes me sound up my own **** then so be it, Why don't people who live in council houses just go and build their own,after all it would be a lot cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted September 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 The price of building a house is not the point,virtually no one pays the build price,otherwise we would all have mortgages half the price.A council house is subsidised social housing for people on low pay,or is supposed to be,it is not a right it is a privilege,if that makes me sound up my own **** then so be it, Why don't people who live in council houses just go and build their own,after all it would be a lot cheaper. Doesn't sound like you are up your **** at all. Seems to make perfect sense to me. Sadly, we are a " I have my rights" society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Seeing as the rent for council houses is subsidised and is less than paying a mortgage,i cannot see how you reach that conclusion,most mortgages are over 25 years. This is the thing if you buy a house at the start you may well be paying more that someone renting a council house but your payments will stay the same or at least follow the interest rate up or down council house rents go in one direction and that is up also councils can borrow money much cheaper that you or I. so they can charge less rent although council houses rents are still not cheap then you get the buy to rent people who buy houses with tax inducements and then expect people to rent the house so that in the end they end up with a house for free nice work if you can get it. The truth of the matter is we have to many people in this country and to few houses when I was young it was posable for a single person with a resonable job to buy a three bed semy now you will need two people both in well paid jobs that is not and never can be rite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastiebap Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 If it would get him into power, milliband would blow every voter himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nial Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Pitt the even younger ( Miliband if you never watched Blackadder) has promised an uk apprentice for each foreign worker if he gets into power. Who does he think is going to to pay for these apprenticeships? Do most companies that _need_ apprentices not already have them? They really don't understand how the real world goes round (that's all politicians). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 1 x apprenticeship for 1 x SKILLED foreign national employed, but as many unskilled foreigners as they like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Bu Le Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Pitt the even younger ( Miliband if you never watched Blackadder) has promised an uk apprentice for each foreign worker if he gets into power. 1. It was the previous muppets in his party that allowed unbridled immigration as a social experiment. 2> How do you define a uk citizen, the person could have been a foreign worker up to the day before in theory. Wow that would solve the youth unemployment problem overnight provided he includes the illegal migrants............Oh sorry Miliband (or Cam the man) can't, they don't know how many 100,000s there are, or where they are. Wonder how he would do it though, think most employers if they needed apprentices would have them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
besty57 Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 more labour bs.they made a balls up last time now they want to do it again.they tell people what they want to hear, when there not in power.Then when there in power they back peddle on all the promises they made. labour will never get my vote after the mess they made last time round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boromir Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 Millibellend will say just about anything to get in power just like the naties and there independence up here. Im pretty low on the income scale and I know the coalition is bad but Labour will be the end of this Country for sure. I also felt that when Labour was in last time tax went up more than now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted September 23, 2013 Report Share Posted September 23, 2013 This is the thing if you buy a house at the start you may well be paying more that someone renting a council house but your payments will stay the same or at least follow the interest rate up or down council house rents go in one direction and that is up also councils can borrow money much cheaper that you or I. so they can charge less rent although council houses rents are still not cheap then you get the buy to rent people who buy houses with tax inducements and then expect people to rent the house so that in the end they end up with a house for free nice work if you can get it. The truth of the matter is we have to many people in this country and to few houses when I was young it was posable for a single person with a resonable job to buy a three bed semy now you will need two people both in well paid jobs that is not and never can be rite. Sorry but you seem to be going off on all sorts of tangents,the fact remains that council rents are cheaper than mortgage payments on like for like houses. If you think council rents are to high,then get a mortgage,and take all the worry that comes with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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