3 1/2 inch chambered over unders

[grahamch]

got a fabarm 3.5 inch with 28in barrells and not in camo...love it

 

what model would that be then?

[misser]

hi grahamch

i think it has now been discontinued, it is the same gun as the camo, 30 in barrell and multichoke model but obviously not in camo and with 28in barrell. think they might have done a s/s 3.5 in as well - atb

[Penelope]

Big Mat, what did you think of the Yildiz?

 

I have seen pictures and read reviews but not handled one in the flesh.

 

Is your SXS a 3 1/2, if so what make please?

 

 

I do load my own kent, i'd like a 3 1/2 so i have the ability to use the big heavy goose loads if needs be. I would like a 10 or 8, but i think i'd struggle swapping between guns depending on whether i go out for geese or not so would just like one gun i can use.

 

I have looked at it, but already got one side by side which sees occasional foreshore use.

 

If i change guns i won't be getting another auto!

[kent]

I do load my own kent, i'd like a 3 1/2 so i have the ability to use the big heavy goose loads if needs be. I would like a 10 or 8, but i think i'd struggle swapping between guns depending on whether i go out for geese or not so would just like one gun i can use.

 

Of course there is a lot of good reason to have but one gun, yet how many of us actually achieve that goal? There was a real interesting link posted a week or two back on here to a field and stream article were they tested the 3 1/2" against the 3" 12ga. To be fair the findings looked towards its employ being less than worthwhile balistically over the 3". Big and heavy is not the answer as far as Steel goes, the old lead loads contained fewer pellets than we use in steel and did just fine! What we need to change our mind-set to is speed and enough pellets to get the job done (unless we are talking the high end non toxic alternatives) IMO.

Having fired many 3 1/2" 12ga at geese and at the plate, I don't think they compare favourably against the same load in a 10ga (even when manufacturers claim similar speeds the penetration is far from equal when tested). The extra recoil is the downside and its far harder to get that second bird / follow up shot in as a result, so personally speaking once my stock of super magnums is used up I seriously doubt I will be firing any more. Higher component or higher factory purchase price for significantly more recoil in what is or should be a lighter gun (making the gun heavy enough to soak up that kick is bound to make it slow on teal etc), firing more pellets that could be seen as more than we need? Nope not for me personally, not any more.

[henry d]

 

The extra recoil is the downside and its far harder to get that second bird / follow up shot in as a result, so personally speaking once my stock of super magnums is used up I seriously doubt I will be firing any more. Higher component or higher factory purchase price for significantly more recoil in what is or should be a lighter gun (making the gun heavy enough to soak up that kick is bound to make it slow on teal etc), firing more pellets that could be seen as more than we need? Nope not for me personally, not any more.

 

I know you aren`t after a semi, but for all the above I went for an xtrema 2 and it is the bees knees IMHO, I use it on woodpigeon, duck and geese (inland and on the shore) and use it on fox with 2 1/4 oz lead and in all these instances there is no cycling or recoil issues.

I really would not want to use a OU with 3 1/2" chambers unless the weight of the gun is sufficient to soak up recoil and if that is what the gun has to do then a 10 or 8 will be better again (cost of cartridges is a whole different matter).

[kent]

 

I know you aren`t after a semi, but for all the above I went for an xtrema 2 and it is the bees knees IMHO, I use it on woodpigeon, duck and geese (inland and on the shore) and use it on fox with 2 1/4 oz lead and in all these instances there is no cycling or recoil issues.

I really would not want to use a OU with 3 1/2" chambers unless the weight of the gun is sufficient to soak up recoil and if that is what the gun has to do then a 10 or 8 will be better again (cost of cartridges is a whole different matter).

 

ten an 12 super magnums are about equal in cost. Eights of course are more costly and harder to get, there being no factory load to be had now.

[muncher]

Matt , an 8 is now an out dated bygone gun that's used for nostalga as the non toxic for it is to expensive or not available and they don't shot any further than a good ten which with steel shoot a bit better than a magnum 12 no if buts or maybe's then put into play most of us cant shoot consistently past about 50 yards and shouldn't be morally anyway your attitude is about right . but the misses that upset us the most aren't the long range shots it's the close ones start getting them then think about longer shots , let the barrage begin. ive owned and used many tens.

 

jules

[Big Mat]

Big Mat, what did you think of the Yildiz?

 

I have seen pictures and read reviews but not handled one in the flesh.

 

Is your SXS a 3 1/2, if so what make please?

 

 

Not seen any pictures or handled one, only read the reviews.

 

My side by side is a 2 3/4", doubt i'll use it on the marsh this year, it mainly gets used for shooting rabbits.

[Big Mat]

I do load my own kent, i'd like a 3 1/2 so i have the ability to use the big heavy goose loads if needs be. I would like a 10 or 8, but i think i'd struggle swapping between guns depending on whether i go out for geese or not so would just like one gun i can use.

 

Of course there is a lot of good reason to have but one gun, yet how many of us actually achieve that goal? There was a real interesting link posted a week or two back on here to a field and stream article were they tested the 3 1/2" against the 3" 12ga. To be fair the findings looked towards its employ being less than worthwhile balistically over the 3". Big and heavy is not the answer as far as Steel goes, the old lead loads contained fewer pellets than we use in steel and did just fine! What we need to change our mind-set to is speed and enough pellets to get the job done (unless we are talking the high end non toxic alternatives) IMO.

Having fired many 3 1/2" 12ga at geese and at the plate, I don't think they compare favourably against the same load in a 10ga (even when manufacturers claim similar speeds the penetration is far from equal when tested). The extra recoil is the downside and its far harder to get that second bird / follow up shot in as a result, so personally speaking once my stock of super magnums is used up I seriously doubt I will be firing any more. Higher component or higher factory purchase price for significantly more recoil in what is or should be a lighter gun (making the gun heavy enough to soak up that kick is bound to make it slow on teal etc), firing more pellets that could be seen as more than we need? Nope not for me personally, not any more.

 

I can understand what you are saying, but at this moment in time it would be stupid for me to even attempt trying to have two guns, i struggle enough with 1. Perhaps in the future but not now.

[kent]

 

I can understand what you are saying, but at this moment in time it would be stupid for me to even attempt trying to have two guns, i struggle enough with 1. Perhaps in the future but not now.

 

Well a good mate of mine shoots the Yildiz 3 1/2" s/s - he don't like it on duck, too long too heavy, too slow. 'Tis an Ok gun for flighting geese though. If it was a one gun choice it would have to be a gas op Auto as its still going to be light enough and fast enough for other things, yet able to "sort of" handle the kick.

I like many others own a 3 1/2" Auto but I have totally gone off the Super mag shell. It happened when I managed to make the mental leap back to the 3" magnum shell

[Big Mat]

I think we have gone a little off discussing the different 3 1/2 over unders.

 

I will try and get a look and handle of some and see what they are like.

[anthonychez]

I have a mate who shoots pigeons ducks and geese very well with a browning 425 3.5 inc . He also shoots a ten but in my opinion he is a better shot with the 12 even on geese. Find a gun your comfy with and loads that you shoot well with and stick with it. The really isnt any need for switching guns for geese and ducks. I shoot an auto it suits me altho i hate it throwing carts about.

[Big Mat]

From whats been said here and when i've spoken to other, the browning seems to be the most popular!

[kennett]

 

I have a mate who shoots pigeons ducks and geese very well with a browning 425 3.5 inc . He also shoots a ten but in my opinion he is a better shot with the 12 even on geese. Find a gun your comfy with and loads that you shoot well with and stick with it. The really isnt any need for switching guns for geese and ducks. I shoot an auto it suits me altho i hate it throwing carts about.[/quote

 

As i said before exactly the same thing here, my matr bought a 10 because it is a real wildfowlers gun but nearly every time out he takes the 425 and shoots better with that, uses the same gun on pigeons and driven/walked up game and is a decent shot so no need to have a gun for every different quarry!

[Silver pig]

I use a Silver Pigeon S 89mm ( 3.5" ) chambers, works just great.....

[TDS]

There is also a Browning Citori Hunter , black action and will have 103 in the serial no. to identify it...looked at one once , a heavy old gun well over 8lbs.

These are 3 1/2 chambered...

Edited March 7, 2016 by TDS

[inderraj]

Would you be interested in a pump? I bought a mossberg 535 at chambered for up to 3.5 and it is great! I actually use it all the time now, smooth action, 3 chokes, very little recoil...

[hatsanmad]

I have a revo k200 duck blind and a hatsan extreme max both 3.5 inch chamberd.

Both shoot really well.

The revo although its light it handles the super magnum shells fine. Its ideal for the marsh aswell because how cheap they are.

I was a bit juvious about using it to start with because of the wieght but i was pleasantly surprised.

But my revo does have a a very thick recoil pad.

If the gun broke tomorow would i buy another erm yes i most certanly would.

Yes there are better options out there i.e berretta, browning, bettinsoli lincoln and fabarm but for the price tag the revo is very good. Yes its plastic stock yes its light yes its not a big name branded gun. But its a work horse it does what it was built for.

It shoots its steel proof.

You dont need to spend huge amounts of money to buy a half decent gun. It wont make you shoot better or anything.

Regards hatsan

[figgy]

Silver pig have you seen the date of the topic 2013 think the op may have bought one in the intervening years

[Big Mat]

I dabbled with a 3 1/2 side by side for a while in the end but it wasn't quite what I was after!